Cold and Missing: Corinne Perry

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,240 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,920 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,220 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages and is intended for a mature 4 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:15,600 audience. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,280 Listener discretion is advised. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,340 Hello everyone and welcome back. 7 00:00:20,340 --> 00:00:25,120 This is our third episode and thank you so much for joining us, for listening in. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:30,080 Again I'm completely blown away by the response from our audience that we're getting. 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,120 Thank you to everyone who has followed us on Instagram. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,280 Thank you to everyone who has reached out, who has interacted with us, who's left reviews, 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,280 who's followed us. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Yeah, thank you for coming back. 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,120 Yeah. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,740 For more episodes. 15 00:00:42,740 --> 00:00:48,220 Completely blown away by this response and totally humbled by it. 16 00:00:48,220 --> 00:00:50,280 So thank you all so much. 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,480 Yeah let's just dive into this week's case. 18 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:54,480 Let's do it. 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:03,680 So we're talking about Corinne Perry and this is a cold case from 1983 in Creston, Iowa. 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,440 So Creston is along the southern part of the state. 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,560 It's near the Missouri border. 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,360 In the 2000 census, Creston had less than 10,000 people so it's a pretty small town. 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,640 If you think of 10,000 people, that's smaller than a lot of college campuses, so pretty 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,640 small. 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:28,200 According to the FBI, a person has a one in 36 chance of becoming a victim of either violent 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,760 crimes or property crimes in Creston, Iowa. 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,880 So it's kind of a rough spot of Iowa it seems like. 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,000 It has a higher crime rate than the rest of the state. 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,160 You say property crime? 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Property crime. 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,040 Like someone just stealing your home? 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,040 Or like arson. 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,040 Or like ruining your property. 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,280 Yeah, more or less ruining your property. 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,120 I think the only way they could steal it is if it had wheels. 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Sometimes they do. 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Sometimes they do. 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Yeah. 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,320 But I think those are the only homes that are prime for stealing. 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,880 Yeah, you can't just yank a home. 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,720 You know what though, some wall cabins though, they like yank up and move around. 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,960 I know, and like double wads. 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,240 Yeah, so you know what, you can steal a home. 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,600 You can yank a home. 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,960 You can yank a home. 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Alright, so Corinne Perry, she was born August 28th, 1965 at an air base in Libya where her 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,160 father was stationed in the Air Force at the time. 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,260 Her parents are Don Perry and Barbara Perry. 49 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:34,980 At the time that she goes missing, her parents are divorced and she lives with her mother 50 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:39,720 in Creston, but her father is close by in Kent, Iowa, so he's not too far. 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,600 Kent is a nearby town of Creston. 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Don and Barbara Perry, they have four daughters together and this is a very blue collar family, 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:53,240 so Don, the dad, he works at the county water system. 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,880 He like does service there and Barbara, the mother, she's a home health aide for the 55 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,000 elderly. 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:06,340 April of 1983, Corinne is just one month shy of her high school graduation and at her high 57 00:03:06,340 --> 00:03:09,740 school she loves acting. 58 00:03:09,740 --> 00:03:13,660 She was part of a lot of the shows at Creston High School. 59 00:03:13,660 --> 00:03:17,560 She was also part of the mime troupe that the high school still had. 60 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,120 A thespian you say. 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,120 A thespian, yes. 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,720 She was an actor and she had recently just won a scholarship. 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Wait, is this cold or missing? 64 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,200 This is cold. 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,920 No. 66 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:36,480 So she had just received a scholarship to Simpsons College in Indianola, Iowa where 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,360 she planned to double major in acting and psychology. 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,680 I know we both know that person who has doubled majored in actor and psychology. 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,680 You and me. 70 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Yeah. 71 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,240 I know I went into college being like maybe I'll double major in psychology. 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Let me get to the depths of myself to where I'm no longer a human being. 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Totally. 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,800 So at the time she went missing, her speech and drama teacher said this, quote, at first 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,960 most people didn't know what to think, but they're beginning to take it seriously. 76 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Corinne was very excited about the scholarship. 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,120 There have been a lot of positive things happen to her at school. 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,600 She's had an excellent year in winning speech and acting awards. 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,120 And she actually won the scholarship by doing a monologue from Veronica's Room. 80 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Are you familiar with this play? 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Most likely. 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,800 So it was written by Ira Levine, best known for writing Rosemary's Baby. 83 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,920 So it's a dark play. 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,920 Hell yeah. 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,160 Oh, I love Rosemary's Baby. 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:42,000 In the play, a woman is lured to a home where she's held against her will and ultimately 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,200 murdered. 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,760 So that's the monologue that she did. 89 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,000 And it's really like a crazy play. 90 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,360 Like I was reading a quick synopsis of it and it's like this main character, she looks 91 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,840 like somebody that the family had lost, like a sister or something like that. 92 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:05,440 So they like trap her into like kind of relive this thing and then they all murder her. 93 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,320 I don't know. 94 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,960 It was like a very dark play though. 95 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,620 Oh, that sounds like the movie Mother with Jennifer Lawrence. 96 00:05:12,620 --> 00:05:16,360 But that's like a whole, you're describing that movie right now. 97 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,380 Well, there's also like an incest factor in the play. 98 00:05:20,380 --> 00:05:22,480 So maybe this is based off of that then. 99 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,600 Like this play is weird. 100 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,280 Corinne is described by her classmates as intelligent, tall, striking, and someone who 101 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:36,520 chose her friends carefully, which I thought was such an interesting way to describe somebody. 102 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,240 Like someone who chooses their friends carefully. 103 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Like that's somebody who is like careful and cautious, you know? 104 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:52,120 And at 17 or 18, I think that's very interesting to say about someone of that age. 105 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,920 I wasn't conscious of shit. 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,920 No. 107 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,440 I was like, yeah, you want my MySpace? 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Have it. 109 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,280 I'm not going to do that. 110 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:05,800 At the time she disappeared, she was five foot seven with strawberry blonde hair, gray 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,760 eyes, a fair complexion, and weighing 115 pounds. 112 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,160 So she is little. 113 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,680 She's very small. 114 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Probably pretty strong though. 115 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,640 Probably strong. 116 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,040 Totally. 117 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,480 Her last known whereabouts. 118 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,160 Sunday, April 17th, 1983. 119 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,680 So again, this is just a month shy of her graduation. 120 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:32,280 Corinne took the car that she shared with her mother at around 610 at night to head to the 121 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:33,840 Highlander laundromat. 122 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:37,920 And the Highlander laundromat is on Highway 34 in Creston. 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,800 And it's near like a lot of motels. 124 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:46,160 So this is like a highway that runs from the suburbs of Chicago to Colorado. 125 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,960 So it's a pretty long highway. 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,680 It runs right through Creston. 127 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Three witnesses are at the laundromat and later are interviewed. 128 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,000 So we know she gets to the laundromat. 129 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 We know she's there and we know she's washing her clothes. 130 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,940 Corinne was drying her clothes. 131 00:06:59,940 --> 00:07:04,760 And so according to witnesses and newspaper reports, this laundromat, like typically when 132 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,700 I think of a laundromat, it's like all the washers are in one place and like the dryers 133 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:11,600 are usually up against the wall, right? 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:17,480 But for this laundromat, the dryers were in a separate room from the washers. 135 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,560 And a man was in the dryer room as well. 136 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,640 This man has never been interviewed by police and police really want to talk to this man. 137 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:32,520 He's described as early to mid 20s, six foot tall, medium length brown hair, clean 138 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:38,640 shaven, aviator style glasses with light frames, like light colored frames. 139 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,240 And he was wearing a tan jacket at the time. 140 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,960 So Corinne leaves the laundromat at around 830. 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,880 The man puts his clothes in a cardboard box and leaves right after Corinne. 142 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Witnesses don't remember the two of them talking or interacting at all. 143 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,240 So there's three other witnesses. 144 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,040 There was like a man and a woman, like a married couple there washing their clothes and they 145 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,040 never specify the third person, but I would assume it's kind of the attendance that works 146 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,040 there. 147 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Yeah, maybe that's what I would assume. 148 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,880 Well, maybe because it's the 80s, there's no cameras. 149 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,880 Right. 150 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,740 So witnesses don't remember the two of them talking. 151 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:16,720 Police want to talk to this man, but he's never tracked down. 152 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,600 And this is the last time that Corinne is seen alive is her walking out of the laundromat 153 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,640 with this man walking out right behind her. 154 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,120 Her mother, Barbara, begins to worry when Corinne doesn't come home. 155 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,640 She and her other daughters start calling Corinne's friends, but nobody has seen her. 156 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,720 Finally, at around midnight, it's 1158 PM. 157 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,240 Barbara calls the police. 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Barbara truly thinks that they're going to find her out joyriding and just like hanging 159 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,200 out with a friend or something. 160 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,160 They're going to be like, Hey, your mom wants you home like you're in trouble. 161 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,160 You got to get home. 162 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,920 But police don't find her and police treat her as a runaway, even though she has never 163 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,120 done this before. 164 00:08:54,120 --> 00:09:01,640 And her parents say it's very unlikely at 1130 PM, the same night that Corinne disappears, 165 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,760 her purse is found by a runaway. 166 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,760 I'm sorry. 167 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:12,360 I just like need to go back to why she had plans after school, like after graduation. 168 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Yeah, like I said, like she had won the scholarship. 169 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:23,440 She had been running away from exactly her like being very successful in her life. 170 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. 171 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,400 And she was very excited to graduate, which was happening in a month. 172 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,560 Like she was about to walk, you know, did she have a partner or anything? 173 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:37,840 It's not mentioned at the time if she had a boyfriend, if she was seeing any. 174 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,800 So the cops were just like runaway. 175 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,400 We have decided that. 176 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,120 Yeah, so they treat it like a runaway initially. 177 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,980 So at 1130 PM, the night that Corinne disappears, her purse is found by a man sitting on a highway 178 00:09:51,980 --> 00:09:55,120 bridge over the West Platte River. 179 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,340 But it'll take a week and a half for the man to turn it into police. 180 00:09:58,340 --> 00:09:59,800 So we'll come back to the purse. 181 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,160 But her purse is found the night that she goes missing. 182 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,420 Okay, so Monday, April 18th, 1983. 183 00:10:07,420 --> 00:10:11,900 So this is the next day after Corinne goes missing, but we're still kind of working 184 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:13,400 through the night here. 185 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,540 So just after midnight, her car is found at the laundromat. 186 00:10:16,540 --> 00:10:20,880 So it's still at the laundromat where she was last seen. 187 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:26,400 And presumably, she made it to her car because her clothes are folded neatly on the front 188 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,400 seat. 189 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,440 So the clothes that she had just washed are in the car in the front seat. 190 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,520 And even though despite this clue, the police will continue to treat it as a runaway at 191 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,520 this point. 192 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,040 So she doesn't have a car, she doesn't have her clothes, and she doesn't have her purse, 193 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,600 but the police don't know this yet. 194 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:50,060 On Monday, April 25th, 1983, so this is over a week after she's been missing, police assume 195 00:10:50,060 --> 00:10:52,960 she would show up or call her family or something. 196 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,400 There's been no word from Corinne. 197 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:00,760 And police acknowledge that young folks who run away are usually heard from within a week. 198 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,780 And so the police decide to run her name and picture in the paper asking if anybody has 199 00:11:05,780 --> 00:11:07,400 seen anything. 200 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:13,600 On Wednesday, April 27th, 1983, late that night, while her father is falling asleep, 201 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,760 her father Don, he gets a phone call from a young woman who said Corinne's nine miles 202 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,120 north of Oskala and immediately hangs up. 203 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:28,120 Don thinks that it could have been Corinne who was calling but wasn't sure. 204 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,760 The caller had a hard time pronouncing her Rs, which is something that Corinne had trouble 205 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,520 with as a child. 206 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,520 I don't think this is Corinne. 207 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,720 And yeah, I don't think this was Corinne. 208 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,000 She's been doing speech and drama. 209 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:49,720 I'm sure she has worked that speech impediment out of having trouble pronouncing her Rs, 210 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,160 if she's winning speech competitions. 211 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,760 In the 1980s, they were very ableist, so if you had a speech impediment, they were going 212 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,960 to be like, no, you lost. 213 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:04,840 It's sad, but it may have just been a really hopeful thought on her dad's part, or just 214 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,840 hoping that that was the last time I heard from her. 215 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Totally. 216 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,640 I don't really know what goes on in people's minds with that type of loss. 217 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Yeah, totally. 218 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,400 I would imagine anything is a sign. 219 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,080 And if you're asleep? 220 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Police search the area indicated by the woman, but they find nothing. 221 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:31,000 And so later on, it's not specified when this other phone call comes, but Don gets another 222 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,840 phone call and that's left on his answering machine. 223 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,700 And the voice is difficult to understand due to static and the caller is whispering. 224 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:43,080 And all the caller is saying is, it's not easy. 225 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,560 It's not easy. 226 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:47,080 Over and over again. 227 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,080 Don was spooked by this call. 228 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,520 Like he said, this one scared him, but no. 229 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,680 It scared the Don. 230 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,240 It scared Don, Mr. Don Perry. 231 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:01,040 But no real answers on who made these calls, if they were just like horrible pranks. 232 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,760 I don't know. 233 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:09,520 On Thursday, April 28th, the person who found Corinne's purse comes forward and hands it 234 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,920 over to police. 235 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,480 And he comes forward because he read about it in the paper. 236 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:19,400 So this is why it takes him a week and a half roughly to give the purse over to the police 237 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,360 because the police were treating it as a runaway and he had no idea this purse he found was 238 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,220 from a missing teenager. 239 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:31,240 The purse is found about seven miles away from the laundromat between Kent, Iowa and 240 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,240 Lenox, Iowa. 241 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,660 So this is like on the way out of town. 242 00:13:34,660 --> 00:13:41,080 And even though it's going towards Kent, Iowa, which is where her father lived at that time, 243 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,280 there was no reason for her to be going over there that evening or to be headed in that 244 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,280 direction at all. 245 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,680 And again, the car that she was driving was found at the laundromat. 246 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:55,340 So she would have had to have gotten in a car with somebody to get that far away or 247 00:13:55,340 --> 00:13:57,220 walk that far. 248 00:13:57,220 --> 00:14:02,640 Police and family believe that the purse was placed as opposed to thrown from a car because 249 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,280 fragile items in the purse were not broken. 250 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,980 The purse was found like on a highway bridge, essentially like going over a river. 251 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:14,440 Inside of her purse were glasses and makeup. 252 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,240 And these are the fragile items that were not broken at all. 253 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,600 So none of her makeup was busted or broken, which I'm thinking about like 80s makeup and 254 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,840 like compacts, you know, that like shattered so easily. 255 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,360 And her glasses. 256 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,180 So those are the fragile items. 257 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:30,180 Those weren't broken. 258 00:14:30,180 --> 00:14:31,480 Those were safe in her purse. 259 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,320 Her driver's license was there, a phone card was there. 260 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,960 And the only thing missing from her purse are photos of her friends, which according 261 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,560 to her family, she treasured her photos of her friends. 262 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,120 And those were the only thing missing from her purse. 263 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,840 I wonder if, you know, she was abducted. 264 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:56,400 If she somehow like if the window was rolled down, she dropped it as like a come find me. 265 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,100 It was like a marker. 266 00:14:58,100 --> 00:14:59,960 You know, sometimes people do that. 267 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:05,760 They'll leave like a shirt behind or some sort of item in hopes of leaving a clue if 268 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,760 someone comes looking. 269 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Well, the only thing that makes them think that it was like somebody stopped and placed 270 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,000 it there as opposed to just drop it from a moving car. 271 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,920 It would have been thrown off the bridge. 272 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,520 Or if it was if it was like just being discarded. 273 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,520 So I agree with you. 274 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:31,160 I think it was placed, but I just don't necessarily think it was placed by just the abductor. 275 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,960 I think it's possible that it was her too. 276 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,960 It could be. 277 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,800 I because I know how this story. 278 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,800 Oh, yeah. 279 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:38,800 Damn it. 280 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Look at me playing detective and you already know. 281 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,320 Yeah, I'm like, but that's pretty smart of me. 282 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Yeah, I but I don't I think it was placed there by whoever abducted current. 283 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Okay. 284 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Well, you know, so now with her glasses being in her purse, her family says that she could 285 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,960 not function without her glasses. 286 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,080 Her mother says she would have a splitting headache within 30 minutes if she didn't 287 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,040 wear them or her contacts and she did not have her contact. 288 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,800 She only had her glasses at this time. 289 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,440 So after finding her glasses, police then suspect foul play. 290 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,560 And that evening they request the help of the DCI to investigate. 291 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,840 And that's the Division of Criminal Investigation for the state of Iowa. 292 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,700 So as soon as they find her glasses, her family's like she can't function without her glasses. 293 00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:30,220 She can't see without her glasses and she's going to have a migraine in 30 minutes if 294 00:16:30,220 --> 00:16:31,320 she's not wearing them. 295 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,800 They're like, oh, well, maybe she's not a runaway. 296 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,000 She'd probably take her glasses with her if she was a runaway. 297 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,360 So now they are suspecting foul play and they call in the DCI. 298 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,200 That Friday, the DCI officially joins the investigation. 299 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Could you clarify what the DCI stands for? 300 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,520 Yeah. 301 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,120 The Division of Criminal Investigation for the state of Iowa. 302 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,120 Thank you. 303 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,120 Yes. 304 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,680 On Tuesday, May 3rd, police run the story in the paper hoping to generate new tips and 305 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:56,680 leads. 306 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,800 But at this time they're very honest and they say they have no leads, but they're still 307 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,440 trying to find the man who left after her. 308 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:09,080 And at this point in the papers, they're treating him as a potential witness and not a suspect. 309 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,360 So they're saying he's not a suspect. 310 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:12,840 Like we just want to talk to him. 311 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,660 We just want to talk to him in hopes that he'll come forward. 312 00:17:15,660 --> 00:17:23,440 On Sunday, May 15th, 1983, the Creston police chief is quoted in the paper as saying, in 313 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,720 the 18 years I've been in police work, I've never had a case like this. 314 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,720 End quote. 315 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:37,480 On May 10th, the family, along with Corinne's church, offers a $2,500 reward, but no leads. 316 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:44,320 The next week, on May 15th, Barbara, Corinne's mother, is interviewed in the paper. 317 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,920 And she's terrified for her daughter. 318 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,800 And this is what she's quoted as saying. 319 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,400 I've continued to work. 320 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,960 Those people need me too. 321 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,520 They have been very thoughtful. 322 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,960 I don't know what might happen. 323 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,020 I really don't want to think of anything bad happening to her. 324 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:01,000 They might harm her body, but they cannot touch her soul. 325 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,040 That would be the worst thing that could happen to her. 326 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,040 End quote. 327 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:09,360 So I just like feel so bad for Barbara that she's working while her daughter is missing. 328 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:14,040 Like something about that, like, and I know it happens to like missing people every single 329 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,040 day. 330 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:20,280 A loved one goes missing and like you have to work because that's the society we live 331 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,280 in. 332 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,120 Like you have to keep paying your bills even though your life stopped that day your loved 333 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:26,120 one went missing. 334 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,040 Like you are in this limbo. 335 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,280 Like I just thinking of her like going to work just broke my heart. 336 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,800 It really did. 337 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,000 I felt so bad for her. 338 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:44,520 On Sunday, May 22nd, 1983, Corinne's classmates graduate without her. 339 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,920 It had been debated for a while if they were going to postpone the graduation ceremony 340 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,440 in hopes that she would come back. 341 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,760 But they ultimately decided to go ahead with it. 342 00:18:53,760 --> 00:19:01,000 And like having to quote move forward, you know, it's like keeps going and that's, you're 343 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000 very right. 344 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 It's heartbreaking. 345 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,440 Yeah, it's cruel. 346 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,880 It's like cruel for these families that their time has stopped, but time keeps moving forward. 347 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,360 Like, but they are always going to be stuck there until their loved one comes home completely 348 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:16,040 fine and then they'll be able to move forward. 349 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,800 But it's like no matter what, like anything outside of their loved one coming home completely 350 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,560 fine and just being like, I got lost. 351 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,320 You know, changes and you know, potentially like ruins their lives forever. 352 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,320 Totally. 353 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:33,920 Tuesday, May 31st, 1983, police searched the West Platte River that runs under the bridge 354 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,840 where her purse was found. 355 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:41,040 So this is the third time that police have searched this river, but they want to keep 356 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,880 searching because the water levels have changed. 357 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,840 So every time the water level kind of changes significantly, they go back in and search 358 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,520 to see if anything has come up. 359 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,200 And so they search basically from where her purse was found and downstream from there. 360 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,720 Did they do the rakes like drag? 361 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,840 It's not mentioned, but I imagine if they are searching the river, they are dragging 362 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,920 it, at least sections of it, I would imagine. 363 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,160 But yeah, they go basically from where her purse was found down river to see if they 364 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,160 can find her or any clues for her. 365 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,720 So now we're entering the summertime. 366 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,160 This is June of 1983. 367 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Corrine's family, along with her church, start a nonprofit called Corrine Perry Support Group 368 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,720 Incorporated. 369 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:29,440 And this is to handle the donations to pay for private eyes, to store the reward funds. 370 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:36,480 And they are helped in setting up this nonprofit group by the family of Johnny Gosh. 371 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,440 A lot of our listeners may recognize that name. 372 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,760 He's a very famous missing boy from Iowa as well. 373 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:49,440 And he went missing September 5th, 1982, so this would have been six months, roughly before 374 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,000 Corrine disappeared. 375 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,640 And he was delivering the newspaper when he was kidnapped. 376 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Is he from Creston? 377 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,840 He's not from Creston, but he is close by. 378 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,480 He's maybe an hour away in Iowa. 379 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,480 And Johnny Gosh, his case will completely dominate the news. 380 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,320 He becomes the first kid on the missing milk bottle. 381 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,240 That's kind of how he is famous that we're so well known. 382 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,880 But then later as well, another paper boy from Iowa is going to be kidnapped as well. 383 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,880 So they really dominate the news. 384 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,040 And Corrine just doesn't get as much media attention because these two paper boys really 385 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,160 dominate the news. 386 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:36,400 But Johnny Gosh's family does assist Corrine's family in getting this set up. 387 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:42,160 And Corrine's support group, they're headquartered at the church and they have like a big bulletin 388 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,000 board there with pictures of her, articles about her. 389 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,720 And they also keep a vase of fake roses because just like the roses will never die, their 390 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,960 hope will never die. 391 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,280 And Barbara is quoted as, some weekends are horrible. 392 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,320 That's when I try to keep very, very busy. 393 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,480 If I stop, I end up crying on somebody's shoulder, end quote. 394 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,680 And I'm like, girl, yeah, cry on somebody's shoulder. 395 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,200 It's okay. 396 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:12,000 So summer comes and goes, no real new leads, no sign of Corrine at all. 397 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:18,600 In the fall of 1983, police are expecting an influx of hunters during the hunting season. 398 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:24,600 So police post Corrine's info in motels, hoping that the hunters could keep an eye out in 399 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,640 the woods for any sign of her. 400 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,280 I think that's kind of a smart move because you know these people are going to be in the 401 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,760 woods and off of trails and like in the woods for hours. 402 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,760 So yeah, like. 403 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,440 And that's usually how people are found is just like someone's walking their dog. 404 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,960 Someone's went hunting. 405 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,960 Yeah. 406 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:46,760 So in February of 1984, so fall comes and goes, Christmas comes and goes, Corrine is 407 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,760 still. 408 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,040 All that would have been her freshman year. 409 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,040 Yeah. 410 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,600 So she would have started her freshman year at Simpson College, but that comes and goes. 411 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,320 So now we're into February of 1984 and police are giving an update on the case and they 412 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:07,400 said they have sent her photo to truck stops, hospitals, law enforcement and to kind of 413 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,040 tailor it specifically to Corrine. 414 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:16,000 They also send her photo to summer and amateur theaters in case she ran off to start her 415 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:23,280 acting career as well as optometrist offices because her family says her vision is so bad, 416 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,320 she would have to get glasses or contacts and her only pair of glasses were found in 417 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,320 the purse. 418 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,120 If she is still alive and out there, she would need to get glasses at some point. 419 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:34,400 So they send it to optometrist offices as well. 420 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:40,120 I don't know why, but that like extra fact just like, just like really like pokes at 421 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,600 my like most tender spot. 422 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,440 Her not having her glasses, I think because like I am this, I am similar. 423 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,440 You are too. 424 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,440 Yeah. 425 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,200 To be like in that situation and also to not be able to see. 426 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Yeah. 427 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,880 And like possibly, I'm sure adrenaline would maybe keep the pain down from in your head 428 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,440 to still not, to not be able to read road signs like if you're still alive. 429 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,440 Yeah. 430 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,280 I mean, you know, glasses are a mobility aid. 431 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,040 It's an aid and it's like if you don't have it, like the world is very different and more 432 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,280 difficult for you, you know, like for sure. 433 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,280 Yeah. 434 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,200 Cause I'm always like, Oh no, I forgot my glasses and it could like, you know, I can't 435 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,680 like watch a movie. 436 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,400 I can't watch a play. 437 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,000 Like I just feel it in my bones. 438 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Also I think maybe as someone who wears glasses, it's like, if you don't have them, like you're 439 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,080 installing like, I don't have my glasses. 440 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,520 You're like, it becomes like a worry thing for you. 441 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,520 You're like, I don't have my glasses. 442 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,520 I don't, I gotta get my glasses. 443 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,120 I worry about my glasses as much as I worry about like losing my phone. 444 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,120 Yeah. 445 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:42,120 Yeah. 446 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:43,840 They're on the same tier of worry. 447 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,840 Yeah. 448 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Like phone keys, glasses, wallet. 449 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Like I need all of those to function. 450 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,960 So we're still in February, 1984. 451 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,880 Police say that they have interviewed around 200 people at this point and they don't know 452 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,960 any more now than on the day she disappeared. 453 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:00,960 That's what they say. 454 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,960 And I'm like, that's thank you for your honesty, but that sucks. 455 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,200 Like you don't know anything more than the day she disappeared. 456 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,200 That sucks. 457 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,520 The support group continues to meet every Thursday and her mother remains optimistic 458 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,480 that she'll turn up alive. 459 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:22,900 So on Monday, September 17th, 1984, so this is fall of 1984. 460 00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:27,040 So she would have been a sophomore at this point in college or starting her sophomore 461 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,040 year. 462 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,040 At 6 a.m. 463 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,120 Barbara is awoken by a phone call from a man calling and asking for Curran. 464 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,020 Barbara says she isn't here right now. 465 00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:41,080 And when he starts to hang up, Barbara quickly asks how he knows her. 466 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,960 And he says that he had seen her around Creston in the last few days and then he hangs up. 467 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,360 Police are unable to determine if it's a prank or if it's a legit sighting. 468 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:58,260 So Saturday, November 3rd, 1984, at 11 a.m. in North Lennox, two boys are in a heavily 469 00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:03,600 wooded area pheasant hunting and they find a human skull and other bones scattered along 470 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,240 a dried stream bed. 471 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:11,400 And this location where they find the skull and the bones is about 100 yards from an abandoned 472 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,860 Burlington Northern Railroad track and a quarter of a mile north of a gravel road. 473 00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:24,520 So it's very heavily wooded and very rural, abandoned, not a lot of folks out there. 474 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:30,680 This location is also about a mile away from where her purse was found, but it's upstream 475 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,080 from the bridge where only downstream had been searched before. 476 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,040 That's still bizarre to me that they were like, we'll just start from right here. 477 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,920 Like, yeah, that's bonkers to me. 478 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,040 It doesn't make a lot of sense, but I don't know if this is just like we're living in 479 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,600 the year 2022 and we know like, OK, you've got to search both directions in a stream 480 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,000 now, not just downstream. 481 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Like, well, if I took my earring out and dropped it to the left of me, I would look at the 482 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,920 entire floor surrounding me, not just one side of it, right? 483 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,960 Not just to the left side. 484 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,200 Yeah, but police never searched this area originally. 485 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:17,240 So the bones are Corinne's and only her skull, hip, leg and neck bones are found. 486 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,000 Police searched the area around where her body was found for additional bones, personal 487 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,900 items, clues and clothing, but nothing is found on this day. 488 00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:32,120 And that evening, police officially confirmed that it's Corinne via dental records. 489 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,600 She has been found. 490 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:40,200 On Monday, November 5th, 1984, state and local law enforcement began an intense investigation 491 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,720 to see if they can determine the cause of death. 492 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,760 Ultimately, due to the incomplete skeleton and amount of decomposition, a cause of death 493 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,920 could not be determined. 494 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,040 Police returned to the woods to continue to search for clues. 495 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,480 And on this day, the police will find clothes connected to Corinne. 496 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,000 But the condition is so poor, no additional information can be gathered. 497 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,760 According to the newspaper, they had been underwater and exposed to the elements. 498 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,160 So like they had just been, there was no evidentiary value to them. 499 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,480 How did they know they were hers? 500 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,480 I think it's the clothes she was last seen in. 501 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,720 So they had a description of what she was wearing. 502 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,320 So there was some sort of confirmation that happened that they were hers? 503 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,320 They were her clothing. 504 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,320 Yes. 505 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,320 Okay. 506 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,320 Yeah. 507 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,080 But there's no evidence that can be collected from them. 508 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Sure. 509 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,800 And there's no clues to indicate how she died. 510 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,760 So there's no bullet wound in the skull. 511 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:42,360 There's no, in her clothes, not that I'm aware, but no stab, puncture, blood. 512 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Was there any indication of dismemberment? 513 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,280 But you would need more bones? 514 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Yeah, you would need everything. 515 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:54,160 You would need the complete skeleton to see, are there saw marks on bones? 516 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,160 That kind of thing. 517 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,040 So this is the same way her body is found. 518 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,680 Police continue to search for more of her bones to try to help determine the cause of 519 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,680 her death. 520 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,240 The bones police do have are in rough shape and they say police are going to continue 521 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,120 to test them, but I don't know what they're testing them for. 522 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,080 What results come from them never reported. 523 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:21,320 Barbara is devastated by the news, but she is glad to finally know where Corinne is. 524 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,840 And she 100% believes foul play is involved. 525 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,840 And she says, quote, she wouldn't have gone out and laid in a ditch, end quote. 526 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,540 And then police say from the beginning, they have considered the disappearance an abduction, 527 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:35,720 but we know they're liars. 528 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,720 This is a lie. 529 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,240 They're saying this in the newspaper. 530 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,520 Lies, lies, lies of Manali, more lies. 531 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,520 Lies. 532 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,960 Like what's a keeping up with the Kardashian clip? 533 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,960 Like you liar. 534 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,960 Like that's how I feel when I read this. 535 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,660 I'm like, you are lying through your teeth. 536 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:54,680 You did not, you did not. 537 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,560 You talked about her being a runway. 538 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Yeah. 539 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,560 Like you talked about it. 540 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,880 You said you acknowledge that like, oh, usually we hear from runaways by now. 541 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,960 So we'll guess we'll look into it a little bit more. 542 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Like don't, don't play this game. 543 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,280 The lies you tell. 544 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Don't try to come at the end and say, well, we always considered it an abduction. 545 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,680 Don't invite the devil into my home with your lies. 546 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,840 Don't invite the devil into my podcast with your lies. 547 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,840 Don't. 548 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,840 It's a liar. 549 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:22,320 A DCI agent, Sam Swain is quoted as saying, if we get any physical evidence that would 550 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,520 indicate a cause of death, we'll consider ourselves lucky, end quote. 551 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,720 So they do not know how she died. 552 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,960 There's not enough bones to figure that out. 553 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,520 And the bones they do have give no indication of how she died. 554 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,440 After her body is found, her high school starts a drama scholarship in her memory. 555 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,920 And then truly that's the last we really hear about Corinne. 556 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:52,860 In 2009, the DCI establishes a cold case unit and Corinne's case is assigned to the unit. 557 00:30:52,860 --> 00:30:56,460 But other than that, no arrests have ever been made. 558 00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:59,960 No suspects have ever been named. 559 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:08,120 And her parents, Don and Barbara, her dad, I believe, passed away in 2001 and Barbara 560 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,560 passed away in 2017, I believe. 561 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,320 So they died not knowing. 562 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,360 So they both have died not knowing. 563 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,160 But she does have three sisters still who, you know, every now and then we'll meet with 564 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,440 the news and try just bring her case up again and keep her case alive. 565 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,440 Like her sister's one answer as to what happened to her. 566 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:34,360 Her sister's has a daughter that apparently is like a spitting image of Corinne and looks 567 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,600 just like her. 568 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,200 So the family does like she get the ginger hair. 569 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,280 Yeah, like she has a daughter that she says is like a spitting image of Corinne's and 570 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,600 she is quoted as saying like, I get to see my little sister all the time now. 571 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,800 And I think, yeah, like that's, that's really sweet. 572 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,800 That's really sweet. 573 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,800 Yeah. 574 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,160 But like they, you know, she still wants answers. 575 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,400 She still wants to know what happened to her sister. 576 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:05,920 Personally, I think that the man that followed her out holds the key to everything. 577 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:11,320 Yeah, like even if he didn't do it, he saw something because her car did not leave the 578 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,320 laundromat. 579 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,200 My brain is thinking that. 580 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:20,640 And the other big thing that's the yelling from the back of my mind is that big highway 581 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:27,000 that like runs from Chicago to Colorado, like through there, there's gotta be like randos 582 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,280 who fly through little towns like that and where they're just like able to. 583 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,280 Yeah. 584 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,640 And the laundromat was near like a bunch of roadside motels. 585 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:41,400 So there is a possibility that it was somebody passing through that maybe like saw this girl 586 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,440 in the laundromat and was just waiting. 587 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,440 Yeah. 588 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,400 And I'm assuming maybe it was that guy who maybe he's the guy in the laundromat. 589 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,400 Yeah. 590 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,200 He holds the key, whatever it is. 591 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,480 If he did not do it himself, if he did not cause current to disappear, he was the only 592 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,440 one out there within like five minutes of right. 593 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,280 And if her car never leaves that laundromat, she had to have gotten into a car with somebody. 594 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,280 So like he, if he did not do it, that man, I don't think she got into a car. 595 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,280 Yeah. 596 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,040 But willingly, I assume she would have needed a car though. 597 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,040 Like, yeah. 598 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,240 So that man, if it was not him that did it, he could have seen a car pull in, he could 599 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,160 have seen a car pull out. 600 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,680 He could have seen somebody speeding by, like, you know, he could have seen something. 601 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:35,560 But at this point, unless he was like somebody just passing through town and like not has 602 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,400 no reason to think about it again, like with all this news, like when she disappeared, when 603 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,880 they finally started running her name in the paper and everything, you would think he would 604 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,480 come forward and say, yeah, I saw her. 605 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,800 I am that man. 606 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:56,120 But maybe he is a traveler and was out the next day and like didn't come back to Creston 607 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,320 for a year. 608 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,880 And at that time, the case had died down and you know, Johnny Gosh was still being like 609 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920 Johnny Gosh was the big national case out of Iowa. 610 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,560 Corinne never really left Iowa, you know? 611 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,560 Yeah. 612 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,760 Looking at all the newspapers, they all come from Iowa. 613 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,760 There was only like one from Minnesota that covered her disappearance. 614 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,080 But other than that, all the surrounding states, they didn't have anything in the newspaper 615 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,080 archives. 616 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,680 Maybe there is something that's just not listed online. 617 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:31,160 But so anyone who knows anything about Corinne Perry's disappearance in 1983 in Creston, 618 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:41,360 Iowa, they are encouraged to call the DCI at 515-725-60110 or the Creston Police Department 619 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,280 at 641-782-8402. 620 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:54,880 And sources for today's podcast comes from NBC News, The Dispatch, The Des Moines Register, 621 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,000 The Gazette of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sioux City Journal, and The Courier. 622 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000 But that's it. 623 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,320 That's Corinne Perry. 624 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,480 She is a cold case. 625 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,480 She deserves some answers. 626 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,400 Thank you all again for listening. 627 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,280 Join us next week. 628 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,000 If you are enjoying what you're listening and if you have cases that you want covered, 629 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