Cold and Missing: Dava Leonard

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages. 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Listener discretion is advised. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-SUlkowski. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680 And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,560 And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases. 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,440 And missing person cases. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,200 Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,460 I'm your host, Ali. 11 00:00:38,460 --> 00:00:40,420 And I'm your co-host, Eli. 12 00:00:40,420 --> 00:00:42,600 You were off last week for your birthday. 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,600 I was. 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,280 And our dog had an ear infection. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,200 It was a wild day. 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,400 He did. 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,400 He did have an ear infection. 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,760 He's okay now. 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,400 His birthday is the day before mine. 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Wild. 21 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Two little Scorpios. 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,200 But you have a case for us, right? 23 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,200 Yes I do. 24 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,160 This one actually came to me from a listener. 25 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,180 So this is somebody who reached out asking me to cover a family friend's of theirs missing 26 00:01:06,180 --> 00:01:07,180 person case. 27 00:01:07,180 --> 00:01:11,820 So I immediately stopped everything I was researching and focused in on this. 28 00:01:11,820 --> 00:01:14,760 So today we are covering a missing person. 29 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:20,960 And just as a bit of a content warning at the top, this case does involve domestic abuse. 30 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:25,680 Today we're going to be talking about the missing person case of Dava Leonard. 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:31,120 And this takes place in February of 2021 in Divide, Colorado. 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,600 But first a little bit about Dava. 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,800 Dava is 39 years old in 2021 and she would be 41 years old today. 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,660 She's the mother of six who always checked in on her children since they did not stay 35 00:01:43,660 --> 00:01:44,660 with her. 36 00:01:44,660 --> 00:01:49,000 Her sister took care of the kids, but Dava was a loving and thoughtful mother who wanted 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,720 what was best for her children, which meant that they needed to live with her sister. 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Her sister Miccah says, quote, she's the one person always laughing, making jokes. 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,480 She really was the comedian of the family. 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,480 End quote. 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,600 A family friend told me that Dava is feisty and funny. 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Dava is around five feet, four inches, 130 pounds, has green eyes and auburn hair. 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:19,200 She wears blacked rim glasses and has a dragon tattoo on her back as well as a tattoo and 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,720 a scar on her left arm. 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,240 Dava's family and friends became worried about the relationship she was in. 46 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:32,280 She had met her boyfriend, Steve, on a dating website and the relationship moved quickly. 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,720 Her sister Miccah said, quote, she met him online on a dating website and then he came 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,060 down to Pueblo and picked her up. 49 00:02:39,060 --> 00:02:44,640 My other sister says the first time he came and picked her up, he was just like possessive 50 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:47,260 and come on, we got to go get your stuff. 51 00:02:47,260 --> 00:02:50,640 And everybody in the house was like, who is this guy? 52 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,600 Why is he acting like this? 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,600 End quote. 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,360 Dava moved to Divide, Colorado with her boyfriend around 2018. 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,160 Dava didn't have her own cell phone or vehicle, but kept in contact with her family and her 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,160 children. 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Dava and her siblings had had a rough start in life and Dava continued to struggle and 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,460 was very vulnerable, having struggled with addiction in the past and her mental health. 59 00:03:13,460 --> 00:03:17,760 Dava had recently begun voicing concerns about her relationship to her family, leading them 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,320 to believe that she was in an abusive relationship. 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,240 And now a timeline of events. 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:30,140 So sometime between February 28th and March 3rd is the last time that Dava is seen. 63 00:03:30,140 --> 00:03:35,440 On her NamUs profile, it does say February 28th, but other media reports that it was 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,680 March 3rd was the last time she was seen. 65 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,700 So there is some discrepancy there, but it does seem that at the end of February, beginning 66 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:47,200 of March of 2021 was the last time Dava was seen. 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,800 She was last seen at her boyfriend's house, which was located in the Rainbow Valley subdivision 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,800 in Divide, Colorado. 69 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Looking up the house online, the subdivision and the home is surrounded by forest. 70 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,800 It's not really a walkable community, so it would be difficult to get around without 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,080 a car, which Dava did not have. 72 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,320 She was reported to be last wearing a gray, puffy Columbia coat with pockets on the front 73 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,960 and side, and she was either wearing jeans or shorts by some reports, but it does seem 74 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,040 that jeans are more likely. 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,000 While Dava did not have a cell phone or a vehicle, all of her other personal items were 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,320 left behind. 77 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Photo albums, her clothing, and most notably, her precious dog, Ello. 78 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,760 On March 5th, 2021, there was a family birthday party that Dava was expected to be at and 79 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,280 she never shows up. 80 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:39,460 If Dava did not show up in the past, she always made sure to call and let people know where 81 00:04:39,460 --> 00:04:40,460 she was. 82 00:04:40,460 --> 00:04:44,760 Again, her sister Miccah says, quote, she was supposed to come back for his birthday on 83 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,360 March 5th or call or something, and she never called, never came back. 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,320 I got a bad feeling on March 3rd. 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,720 I just, in my heart, I knew something was wrong. 86 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,720 End quote. 87 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:02,520 The next day, March 6th, 2021, once Dava failed to show for the family party, Miccah contacts 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,920 the police stressing to them that Dava would not leave without telling her family and she 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,940 certainly wouldn't leave her dog. 90 00:05:08,940 --> 00:05:12,700 The sheriff's office isn't too concerned about her disappearance. 91 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:18,080 They believe that Dava walked out on her own without anything but the coat she was wearing. 92 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,540 Miccah says, quote, for the sheriff's office to say that she didn't have nothing there 93 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:26,360 and then she walked away with nothing and she left her dog, Ello, she didn't. 94 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,160 She didn't walk away from her stuff. 95 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,160 End quote. 96 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,440 A few days pass by and with still no word from Dava, the family requests that the sheriff's 97 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,480 office does a welfare check on March 11th. 98 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,480 So it's been about 11 days since anyone has heard from Dava. 99 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,800 It appears that they did go to the home that she shared with her ex-boyfriend, but she 100 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,120 was not there and all of her personal items and dog were left behind. 101 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,240 Her boyfriend Steve tells police that Dava left on foot about a month ago and he hadn't 102 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,020 heard from her since. 103 00:05:58,020 --> 00:06:03,080 The boyfriend does not seem to be too concerned with Dava's disappearance or the fact that 104 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,560 Colorado has very harsh weather and she left on foot. 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,440 And then that's really all the information that I could find for 2021. 106 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,640 The next update comes nearly a year later in February of 2022. 107 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,960 And this will be the first time that the sheriff's office asked the public for help in finding 108 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Dava. 109 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:28,360 They never seem to have posted a missing person poster or anything on their Facebook before 110 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,320 this date of February of 2022. 111 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,220 The sheriff's office says that new information has emerged and that they are beginning to 112 00:06:35,220 --> 00:06:37,720 look for her more seriously. 113 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,280 They also mentioned that her bank account has not been accessed since she disappeared. 114 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:46,600 I'm not sure if this is the new information that emerged or if police have additional 115 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,000 details that they're not releasing to the public. 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,080 A family friend did tell me that Dava continued to receive social security income all throughout 117 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,400 2021, but it just remained untouched in her bank account. 118 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,700 Her family and friends are concerned because how can anyone get by in this world without 119 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:04,440 accessing their money? 120 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,840 It's around this time that police officially reopen her case. 121 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:14,200 In May of 2022, Dava has been missing for over a year at this point, but the family 122 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,680 remains hopeful for answers. 123 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,280 As Dava's case gets more and more traction online, her ex-boyfriend sold the home that 124 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,140 they shared together and moved out of state. 125 00:07:24,140 --> 00:07:28,560 It also appears that during this time, the sheriff's office invites the Colorado Bureau 126 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,920 of Investigation to help aid them in their search for Dava. 127 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:39,880 In March of 2023, so this is two years now that Dava has been missing, her family is 128 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,840 begging the public for information and to just listen to them. 129 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,480 They desperately are trying to get media coverage, newspapers to report on her, podcasts to report 130 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,560 on her, because they are so desperate for people to listen to them and to help search 131 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,560 for Dava. 132 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,760 The family does hold a memorial and remembrance vigil at the entrance of the Rainbow Valley 133 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,480 subdivision hoping to bring more awareness to her case. 134 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,880 The family at this point fears the worst since they have not heard anything from Dava, and 135 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,440 they do believe that she wouldn't just disappear without reaching out to them, especially her 136 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,720 children. 137 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,800 And then this is truly all of the information that I could find on Dava Leonard. 138 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:26,360 So if you know anything about the disappearance of Dava Leonard, or her whereabouts today, 139 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,960 or what happened to her possessions, her photo albums, her additional clothing that was left 140 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,360 at her ex boyfriend's house, if you have any idea what happened to any of her personal 141 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:43,880 items, please call the Teller County Sheriff at 719-687-9652. 142 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,160 Also if you or a loved one is experiencing an abusive relationship, help is out there. 143 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:55,680 The National Domestic Abuse Hotline is 1-800-799-7233. 144 00:08:55,680 --> 00:09:00,200 There's also an app called Bright Sky that looks like a weather app, but whenever you 145 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:06,080 put in your area code, it will give you localized information for domestic abuse help. 146 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,400 So it will pull up everything in your zip code to access. 147 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:17,160 And the sources for the timeline today come from the NamUs database, KRDO, Fox 21, and 148 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,520 family and friends of Dava Leonard. 149 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,320 So that is the missing person case of Dava Leonard. 150 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:35,160 I am of course heartbroken about the lack of information about Dava, but sometimes I 151 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:42,000 think you know, podcasts like this, Like Cold and Missing, we exist to just speak about 152 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,520 the person. 153 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,320 We exist to speak about the person even if it's not much. 154 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:57,120 You know, hopefully even 10 people hear it and her name is back where it very much should 155 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,120 be. 156 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,120 This was not that long ago. 157 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,840 This was in the pandemic. 158 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:07,280 I just can't understand how so little can happen in 2021. 159 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Does that make sense? 160 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,040 Yes, it does. 161 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,280 It does make sense, but it doesn't make any sense. 162 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:21,560 Like it makes no sense that in 2021, so little was done in regards to searching for Dava. 163 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:26,440 They really kind of chalked it up to, well, she's an adult, she can walk away if she wants 164 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,440 to. 165 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,660 But, you know, when the family is insisting, no, no, no, no, this is not correct. 166 00:10:31,660 --> 00:10:32,660 This is not right. 167 00:10:32,660 --> 00:10:33,660 This is not like her. 168 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:39,380 This is out of the normal for them to still wait almost a year before they even post something 169 00:10:39,380 --> 00:10:42,800 on social media to say like, be on the lookout for this person. 170 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Have you seen this person? 171 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,720 That blows my mind that that was not done sooner because it feels like the bare minimum 172 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,800 for all missing people. 173 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,480 I don't think I have a ton of questions right now. 174 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,360 I don't have enough information, honestly. 175 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:03,480 I'm still swimming in the fact that this was very recent. 176 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,480 That's where I'm at right now. 177 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:11,520 I'm more interested in just like a conversational way to hear what you have to say about this. 178 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,520 Yeah. 179 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,520 You know, a big question I would love to ask the Teller County Sheriff's Department is 180 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,760 just like, why? 181 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,560 Why was this not a priority for you? 182 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:25,720 Like, that's a question that I have that's not even necessarily related to the case, 183 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,800 but it, you know, it has everything to do with the case. 184 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,480 You know, to me, it kind of feels like the police wrote her off as, well, she'll show 185 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 up when she shows up or she won't. 186 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,520 And it seems like they didn't want to invest their resources into finding her, which here 187 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:46,000 at Cold and Missing, like any person who's missing, any person who's been murdered, I think needs 188 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:52,040 all of the resources, especially those who are vulnerable and living on the edge. 189 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:58,680 I'm just really glad that someone reached out and that we're saying her name and that 190 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:08,040 this case is being brought back into the light or maybe into the light for the first time. 191 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:14,340 I don't mean that the family, you know, it seemed like the family was really pushing 192 00:12:14,340 --> 00:12:18,560 for what they know about her. 193 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:28,120 And it just grinds my gears that often the family isn't listened to by law enforcement 194 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,880 about like the behaviors of their loved one. 195 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,960 And I do understand that there are mistakes and sometimes you don't know who you love, 196 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,820 you know, like I get that. 197 00:12:38,820 --> 00:12:44,080 But for the most part, the family is almost always right. 198 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:51,680 That's what's upsetting is like you, you guys have to know this like, yeah, getting worked 199 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:52,680 up. 200 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:56,200 It grinds my gears that they don't listen to the family. 201 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:03,480 And like, this family knew her clearly. 202 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,400 And because it's so recent, like they knew her very recently. 203 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,920 And I don't know. 204 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,920 It's a shame. 205 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:20,120 Yeah, the family really did try to raise the alarm within days of Dava disappearing, they 206 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,280 knew something was off, especially when she didn't show up to the birthday party. 207 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:30,280 I did read reports that this party could have possibly been one of her kids birthday parties. 208 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,120 So if I couldn't find that in media reports, I just kind of saw that talked about in like 209 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,640 online forums and things. 210 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:43,560 But if that's the case, and it was her son's birthday party, it would be very out of the 211 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:48,540 ordinary for Dava not to show up, but for her not to show up and then not call anybody 212 00:13:48,540 --> 00:13:51,200 and say why she was not showing up. 213 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:56,400 She very regularly checked in with her family checked in with her children and, you know, 214 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,640 came down from the mountain to see them and to spend time with them. 215 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,720 So the fact that she didn't show up to this birthday party, the family immediately tried 216 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,720 to raise the alarm saying this is not correct. 217 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,760 This is not right. 218 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:08,760 Something is wrong here. 219 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,960 And the police just didn't take them seriously. 220 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Well, I'm glad we're taking it seriously. 221 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:20,280 I hope that more people continue to talk about her and that, you know, there's just more 222 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:28,360 access to information about what happened purely for like helping this family. 223 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,680 But I think that's it for me right now. 224 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Do you have anything else to add, Ali? 225 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Well, just a future hope of mine for this case is that it does really start to gain 226 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,760 traction and get in the media more and that the family gets the support that they deserve 227 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,000 as the family of a missing person. 228 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:52,480 They deserve those resources and support from their communities, from their local media. 229 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,440 I hope that all picks up for them and they get more coverage for Dava. 230 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:03,560 And then I also hope that as more people hear about her, that we can get some answers because 231 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,880 what happened to all of her personal belongings? 232 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,960 Did somebody see a fire in that neighborhood? 233 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Did somebody find anything in the woods like a hunter or people out hiking that didn't 234 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,380 make sense at the time, like a bunch of clothing or something like that. 235 00:15:17,380 --> 00:15:21,400 But maybe looking back on it now, you think this could be related to Dava. 236 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:26,540 I hope that things like that start to come out for the family so that way they can get 237 00:15:26,540 --> 00:15:27,920 some closure. 238 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:34,700 And frankly, I hope that this home that Dava shared with her ex-boyfriend is searched in 239 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:35,700 some capacity. 240 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:41,800 I hope police can get a warrant to just search to see if there's anything that would lead 241 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,840 them to believe that a crime committed inside the house. 242 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:51,880 I just, if nothing else, to cross that off the list and to get one step closer of what 243 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,640 actually happened to her. 244 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Yeah, I couldn't agree. 245 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,320 I couldn't agree more. 246 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,080 But we will be posting pictures of Dava. 247 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:07,600 And again, if you know anything about Dava or her whereabouts today, please call the 248 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:13,940 Teller County Sheriff at 719-687-9652. 249 00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:19,840 And again, if you or someone you love is experiencing domestic abuse, the domestic abuse hotline 250 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:26,000 is 1-800-799-7233. 251 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,600 And we will be posting photos of Dava on our Instagram so that way you can get an idea 252 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,120 of what she looks like. 253 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:38,080 These pictures are just from a few years ago, so they would still be current to what she 254 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,560 currently looks like. 255 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,760 So please be on the lookout for Dava in your day to day. 256 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:50,660 If she is out there, we want to know where she is and get these answers to this family. 257 00:16:50,660 --> 00:16:54,480 Another way to help get Dava's story out there is to rate and review this podcast. 258 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,320 So if you're an Apple podcast, leaving us a written review is so helpful. 259 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,880 But no matter what platform you're on, if 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271 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Stay safe y'all.