Cold and Missing: Equilla Hodrick

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All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

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I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Solkuwski.

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And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.

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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases.

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Hello everyone and welcome back.

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Welcome back everyone.

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I'm your host, Ali.

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And I'm your co-host, Eli.

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And this is Cold and Missing.

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All right, Al what do you have for us this week?

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So we are on episode 49 and we're on a missing person case this week.

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All right.

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Would you like to jump in?

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Yeah, let's do it.

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Great.

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So just as a content warning at the top, this case does involve a young person.

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Today we are going to be talking about the missing persons case of Equilla Hodrick.

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And this takes place in August of 1985 in the Bronx in New York City.

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But first a little bit about Equilla.

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Equilla is eight years old in 1985.

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She was born August 19th, 1976 and she would be 46 years old today.

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She was born and raised in the Bronx and was a true child of New York City.

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Equilla lived on Briggs Avenue near 194th Street.

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This is close to Poe Park and Fordham University.

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Equilla's block was actually featured on a 1983 CBS documentary called Our Block.

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And I'll link in the show notes where you can watch this to get a sense of what it was

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like to live on Briggs Avenue in the 80s.

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It's a really interesting piece that's a quick watch and shows a lot of the places

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that we'll talk about in today's episode.

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Equilla was tall for her age, standing at 4 foot 11 inches.

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She had a light complexion, black hair and hazel eyes.

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She has a gap between her two front teeth and a small scar under her right eye.

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Her family describes her as smart and caring, a little girl with the world ahead of her.

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And now a timeline of events.

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Monday August 12th, 1985.

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It's a hot August day and people are outside on the street.

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It was still about 90 degrees at 6.30 p.m. when Equilla and her mother were sitting outside

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on the front steps.

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Equilla was one week away from her ninth birthday and she is dressed for the summer heat, wearing

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a red and white shirt, blue denim cutoffs and tennis shoes.

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Equilla's mother Terona Hodrick, but she goes by Terry, is eight months pregnant at

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this time.

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Terry and Equilla have a strong mother-daughter relationship and Equilla would often help

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take care of her mother as her pregnancy advanced.

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As they sat on the stoop, some of Terry's friends stopped by to talk.

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You remember how it was when you were that age and your mom would stop to talk to her

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friends?

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It was not interesting.

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But something interesting did catch Equilla's attention.

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The Mr. Softy Ice Cream Truck.

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Equilla interrupts her mother's conversation to ask for some money to buy an ice cream.

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Terry says no.

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She had already given Equilla some money earlier that day.

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Terry turns around to keep talking to her friends while an undeterred Equilla takes

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off down Briggs Avenue towards East 194th Street.

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The ice cream truck had parked around the corner on 194th.

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Terry could not chase after Equilla being eight months pregnant, so she watched her

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run down Briggs Avenue, but she was not worried.

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Equilla always came back and she was in her neighborhood.

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This was her block.

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Terry stayed on the porch, watching the corner, waiting for Equilla to return, but she never

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came running back up the street.

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As the night continued on, Terry's niece told her that she saw Equilla playing arcade

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games down at the game room at the end of the street.

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As it got even later, though, Terry knew something was wrong and that Equilla would have been

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back by now, so she called the police.

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Detective Frankie McDonald got the call that night and immediately the NYPD take it seriously.

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Detective McDonald, from the jump, believes that Equilla has been abducted due to her

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age and the circumstances.

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Detective Frankie McDonald later reflected on this case, saying, quote, It was a heart-wrenching

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case.

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The mother was a genuine victim, and this was a legitimate missing child.

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Many times in these cases, another family member was involved.

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Not in this one.

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It's unclear when exactly the following events take place.

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Equilla's case was not really covered in the media.

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We'll talk more about that later.

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But what we do know is that the NYPD set up a temporary headquarters inside the Hodricks

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home for two weeks following her disappearance.

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They were able to track down the ice cream truck driver who was in the area the night

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Equilla disappeared.

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He did not remember seeing Equilla or her buying any ice cream from him.

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Police are never able to confirm the sighting of Equilla at the game room.

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Investigators also start searching apartment buildings in the surrounding blocks for Equilla.

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Police use scent dogs and they even launch a helicopter searching for any sign of the

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little girl, but they come up empty again and again.

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Later that same week, on Friday, August 16th, 1985, police are continuing their search for

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Equilla and scent dogs picked up her scent and led investigators to train tracks near

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her home.

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Specifically, the dogs led investigators to a hole in the fence surrounding the train

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tracks.

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Police have learned from folks in the neighborhood that people experiencing houselessness often

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camped out in the tunnel near this area.

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Detective McDonald and his partner asked permission from Metro North to stop the train so they

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could search the tracks for any signs of Equilla.

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Police were told that this was impossible.

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So Detective McDonald asked who could make it possible.

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This ends up going up and up and up the chain to the vice president of Metro North, who

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did have sympathy for Equilla's case.

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He agreed to slow down the trains to 35 miles per hour so the police could safely search

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and he agreed to let them search for 30 minutes.

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Once police were inside, they weren't going to be forced out.

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So they took three hours to search the tracks and talk with the folks who live down there.

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They ended up talking with around 12 people along the tracks.

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One guy they talked to stood out to them.

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He appeared to be in a very emotional state and had a bunch of dolls in his possession.

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Police brought him in for further questioning, but after a few hours it was clear he was

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innocent.

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However, the delay in the trains brought Equilla's disappearance to the news for the first time.

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Newspapers and local news covered the story because people were upset that they had been

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delayed during the Friday evening rush hour.

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At one point, a reporter for Channel 2 asked Detective McDonald whose decision it was to

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slow down the trains, to which he responded, quote, nobody made that decision.

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We made the decision to search for a missing child.

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What is your story?

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That an eight-year-old is missing?

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Or that a few assholes from Westchester came home to a cold dinner?

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I don't have anything more to say to you.

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End quote.

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In the fall of 1985, so this is a few months now that Equilla has been missing, there was

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a block party happening on East 194th Street.

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This is the street Equilla turned onto from Briggs Avenue.

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City Councilman Fernando Ferrer thanked the block for their help in searching for Equilla

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and to keep looking.

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Detective Frankie McDonald also showed up to the party to thank the community and to

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give the neighborhood a phone number where they could call in tips.

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As Detective McDonald was leaving the area, a woman was digging through the trash and

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yelled out to him, quote, you're never going to find that little girl alive.

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She's buried up in Yonkers.

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Detective McDonald doesn't engage with this woman, but when he gets back to his car, it

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hits him.

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An ex-boyfriend of Terry's lived in Yonkers.

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Detective McDonald circles back to try to find the woman, but she's gone.

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He'll try to locate this woman for weeks, but he will never be able to find her again.

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Terry had dated this man for a short time, but he was into drugs and Terry did not want

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that around herself or Equilla, so she broke it off.

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The day Equilla went missing, it's reported that the ex-boyfriend was in the Bronx.

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It's said that he was running around without a shirt on on Ho Avenue, which is about a

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20 minute drive from Equilla's home on Briggs Avenue.

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Later that night, he was seen driving around the Bronx with his roommate from Yonkers in

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a red car.

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Detective McDonald will bring the ex-boyfriend in for questioning many times, as Detective

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McDonald believed he was involved, but the ex-boyfriend maintained that he was innocent

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and had nothing to do with it.

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In 1986, so this would be the next year after Equilla had gone missing, police still had

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no leads.

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Later that year, Equilla's case would appear on Missing.

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Have you seen this person?

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This was a show that was a precursor to Unsolved Mysteries.

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Some tips are called in as a result of the show, but they don't pan out.

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In 1987, so two years now Equilla has been missing, Detective Frankie McDonald decides

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to retire from the NYPD after 20 years on the force.

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He spent the last two years of his career working on Equilla's case.

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Before he officially turns his badge in, he goes through Equilla's case file, which at

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this point weighed 25 pounds from all the work he had done on the case.

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He went to go tell Terry himself that he was retiring, and she sighed and said, well, that's

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the end of that.

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Reflecting back on it, Frankie McDonald said, quote, she was right.

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After I left, there wasn't much more to be done.

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Although every effort was made by the police department to find her daughter, everything

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that could have been done was done.

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We tried.

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We really tried.

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End quote.

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Frankie McDonald also acknowledges that Equilla did not get the same media coverage as other

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missing children around this time, such as Etan Patz.

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Just to give a quick synopsis, Aton went missing in 1979 and was a famous case out of New York

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City.

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Etan was six at the time, and he had convinced his mother to let him walk to the bus stop

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by himself for the first time in Soho, Manhattan.

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The walk was two blocks, and somewhere in those two blocks, he disappeared.

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Eton's case had very intense media coverage, and a whole task force was created to try

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to locate the missing boy.

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By comparison, Equilla's case only had two detectives working on it and was not covered

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by the media until the train delays.

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Eton's case was closed when Pedro Hernandez was found guilty of kidnapping and felony

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murder in regards to Etan.

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Equilla's mother, Terry, did believe that the police did everything they could to find

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her daughter.

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She was very close with Detective Frankie McDonald and ended up naming her son after him.

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She says, quote, I thought the police did all they could to find my child.

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They worked hard, especially Frankie McDonald.

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They searched every apartment building around here from Valentine Avenue to Webster.

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They really looked for Equilla, and for that I am grateful.

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And then the case truly goes cold for the rest of the 80s and into the 90s.

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In 2001, Equilla's case is reopened by a cold case squad in the missing persons unit.

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Investigators go back and re-interview everyone from the original case file.

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Terry had recently moved out of the Bronx and into Manhattan, but she still kept her

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phone number listed in the phone book so Equilla could find her.

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Terry believes that Equilla was still alive at this time.

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She says, quote, I still be praying that she will come home.

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I know in my heart that she's alive because I can feel her.

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You know how it is with a mother and her child.

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You can feel them.

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She's out there.

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I know she's not underground, not my baby.

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However, Detective McDonald had a different opinion on the case.

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He says, quote, I hate to upset the mother, but I don't think she's alive.

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Equilla was very savvy for an eight-year-old.

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She knew her phone number.

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She was smart and street smart.

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She would have reached out to the mother.

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She wasn't a troubled child and she had a good relationship with her mother.

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If she could have called, she would have.

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End quote.

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And that is the last update we have for Equilla.

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Her case is still open with the cold case missing person unit, and they have released

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an Aged Progress photo that will be on our website and on our Instagram.

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And the photo is Equilla at age 46.

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So they believe this is what she would look like today.

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So if you know anything about the disappearance of Equilla Hodrick in August of 1985, please

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call the NYPD Missing Person Unit at 212-694-7781.

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And the sources for the timeline today come from the Mount Vernon Argus, the Newark Advocate,

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Morning Centennial, Lansing State Journal, the Delaware Gazette, the Palm Beach Post,

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Daily News, Merced Sunstar, NY Press, Medium.com, the book My Father's Gun by Brian McDonald,

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and the CBS documentary, Our Block.

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So that is the case of Equilla Hodrick.

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Thank you for bringing it to the podcast.

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I think my first reaction slash question, the strongest one in my mind for you was,

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why do you think there was just a complete drop off of tension and energy?

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I think what played into this is something that we've talked about before, where Equilla

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was a young black girl from the Bronx, and it did not generate any media coverage until

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the train delays happened.

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And even after that, whenever I was searching for her in old newspaper archives, I didn't

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come across a lot, but then I realized that they were misspelling her name.

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So the newspaper misspelled her first and last name.

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That's so disrespectful.

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So after I found the way that the newspapers were spelling it for some time, you know,

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I was able to find a couple more articles, but there was just not as an intense media

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coverage as, for example, Etan

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They projected his picture into Times Square when he went missing, but none of that happened

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with Equilla.

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But Detective Frankie McDonald was on her case, and he was a very dedicated police officer

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and was very dedicated to this case.

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Yeah, like, protect and serve, like taking an oath.

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Like, I guess I see it as like something very, very serious.

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So like, yeah, I'm like, good for you, man.

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You did your job.

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That's like what they all should do, in my opinion.

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Frankie McDonald is honestly, and, you know, I didn't read into everything in his career,

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but from everything I could find, he was a really outstanding cop.

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He had been shot at several times throughout his career, but he himself never once fired

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his weapon.

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So he was all about the de-escalation, all about doing the right work.

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An incredibly like, disciplined and balanced, like, officer.

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I mean, at least to me.

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Yeah, everything that was kind of within the police's power, or within his power, at least,

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like he couldn't create a task force.

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Like he didn't have the authority to do that.

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But, you know, launching the helicopter, getting the sent dogs out, setting up a temporary

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headquarters inside of their home.

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Like everything that was within his power for this case, he did.

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And equal as mother, Terry is very appreciative of him specifically.

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I mean, there's no greater honor than like naming your kid after somebody, and her son

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is named after him.

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Could you go back and just cover again those critical moments where she disappeared?

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My brain is grasping at them like when you wake up from a dream and you're trying to

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remember.

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Yeah.

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So it's around 630 in the evening.

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Okay.

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Equilla and her mother are sitting outside on their front steps, the stoop in New York

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City, and Terry's friends stop by or they're walking by and Terry...

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Remind me of the date again?

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Thank you.

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Sorry for interrupting.

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So it's August 12th, 1985.

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Yeah, I was like, it's summertime.

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It's summertime.

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I had that right.

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It's summertime.

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There's a lot of people out.

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It is hot.

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It's around 90 degrees.

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And at this moment, Equilla hears the ice cream truck.

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So she interrupts her mother's conversation, asks for some money.

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Terry says no, she already gave her some money earlier that day.

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So Equilla runs off down the street.

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She's going to try to get some ice cream anyway.

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But Terry is eight months pregnant, so she can't chase after her.

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And Terry wasn't worried because she was like, Equilla always comes back.

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This is her city.

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This is her block.

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The kids play outside all the time.

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That documentary I mentioned, like you'll see kids playing outside on the sidewalks

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in the street.

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And it is the section that Equilla lived on.

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So it really is a true slice of life for Briggs Avenue.

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So Terry sees Equilla run down the street.

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She sees her turn the corner on 194th.

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That's where the ice cream truck was parked.

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And that's the last time that Terry sees her child.

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And as the evening goes on, Terry's niece says she sees Equilla down at the game hall,

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the game room.

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There's a lot of different names for it that it goes by.

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Like also goes by like the numbers hole, I think.

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So there's a lot of names for this space.

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It's a kid arcade, right?

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No, it's not.

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It's not an arcade like we think of it, like a Chuck E. Cheese or something like that.

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There were a couple kid games, but then there was also like some illegal gambling that happened

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there maybe.

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It was just like, all right, you went down there to play numbers.

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Like there was a lotto.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So that's actually a question that I have because police were never able to confirm

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that sighting.

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But since it was Terry's niece, that's Equilla's cousin, I have to think that if she saw Equilla,

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she did see her that because that's family.

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You're not going to mistake her for somebody else.

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You know, you know, you know, your family.

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But there's also a part of me that thinks or that wonders, like, did the niece just

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say this to like play Kate, Terry and just be like, oh, I saw her.

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She was playing an arcade game.

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She's fine.

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Don't worry.

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Yeah.

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But I tend to lean towards that, you know, as things progressed and it was clear that

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Equilla was missing, that the niece probably would have said, I didn't actually see her.

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So I think Equilla was seen playing an arcade game at some point that evening.

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OK, I think that's where I'm at for now.

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I mostly just like, I'm eager to, you know, do my own like a little bit of just information

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digging.

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I'm glad we got to learn about who she was.

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Yeah, I just I'm like, the systems at play and the systemic racism and systemic so many

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things that that's like all that it is like why not all as in it's something small, but

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it's like this lack of like very basic human understanding of like different experiences

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and like you can see the cracks in the in the pavement of it all.

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And it's sad.

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It's just sad.

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And I know I say it often on here, but I think it's a space to echo it in because like it's

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really true that like there's absolutely no reason that like these cases shouldn't be

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solved.

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There's too much technological advancement in the world and like, yeah, I do agree with

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you about the advances in technology.

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But I think a problem that happens with a lot of missing person cases, especially old

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ones, there's just no evidence to test.

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There was nothing collected at the time besides interviews.

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I know.

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And even if it was just like so mishandled, but I I've always known of evidence, you know,

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there was a time where like the people had to make the conscious like switch of like,

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oh, wait, this could potentially be years easier, you know, like, I'm sure, like revolutionary

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for those folks at the time.

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But yeah, it's easy for me to get frustrated.

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Yeah, but there is still hope.

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A case was closed in 2017 officially with, you know, a ruling.

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It would be great if somebody came forward and confessed to what happened and was just

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able to provide the family with some answers.

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That would be great.

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We would love to see Equilla alive and well and just coming home.

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That's always the hope and the dream.

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Yeah, it's interesting.

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And this is just like me looking at myself and how I observed true crime.

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This is definitely one of those cases where like I didn't really fill in the blanks after

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she turned the corner.

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Like my brain was like, I can't, you know, like, and because there was like really nothing,

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my brain just wouldn't tell me the rest of the story because it's still holding on to

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especially knowing his case.

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I'm like, come forward.

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Like, come on.

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Right?

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Someone, someone knows something.

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You think you think so?

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That's I guess that's what I'm asking.

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Yeah, this case you think so?

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Yeah, I mean, I don't think Aquila happened onto an accident by herself that would have

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like caused her an injury where she couldn't get home.

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You know, I don't I don't think that happened.

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In this case, I think someone purposefully stopped her from coming home again.

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I think she was abducted.

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Yeah.

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Well, moving forward, at least with us on the podcast, I am looking forward to creating

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those graphics so like folks can see, you know, what she looks like the age progression

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photos, missing person poster.

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Yeah.

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All that will be on our, our Instagram.

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Again, if you know anything about the disappearance of Aquila Hodrick in August of 1985, please

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call the NYPD missing person unit at 212-694-7781.

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And one way you can help not only this case, but all the other cases that we cover get

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out to the public consciousness is if you rate and review us in whatever podcast app

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If you're an Apple, if you leave us a written review, it really helps the algorithm machine

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get us to the top and let's other people find this podcast, find this case, find these stories.

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So just by doing that, y'all are helping the mission of this podcast.

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Yeah.

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We'll have pictures of Equilla and the age progress photo up on Instagram with the beautiful

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graphics that Eli makes.

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Thank you, hun.

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And they'll also be on our website, cold and missing.com where we have transcripts readily

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available if you are hard of hearing or if you know someone who is hard of hearing or

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website with them.

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Thanks for joining us on cold and missing.

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I'm Allie and I'm Eli.

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Have a great week and stay safe, y'all.

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Stay safe, y'all.