New Episodes Every Thursday
March 6, 2025

Cold and Missing: Maurice ‘Red’ Jefferson

Cold and Missing: Maurice ‘Red’ Jefferson
The player is loading ...
Cold and Missing

On November 28, 1983, 16-year-old Maurice "Red" Jefferson left his grandparents' house in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, heading to basketball practice—and he was never heard from again. Known for his striking red hair, kind nature, and big dreams of becoming a doctor, Maurice's disappearance remains a haunting mystery. Witnesses claimed he was forced into a car at Franklin Park that night, yet conflicting reports led the FBI to withdraw from the case. As days turned into weeks and years, the investigation ran cold, leaving his family searching for answers, keeping their Bibles open as a symbol of hope. Decades later, Maurice is still missing, his story fading from public memory, but his family has never stopped looking. What really happened to Red that night? Join Ali and Eli as we go over this heartbreaking case.

***If you know anything about the disappearance of Maurice “Red” Jefferson - or his whereabouts today - please call the Broward County Sheriff’s Office at 954-321-4735***

Sources:

South Florida Sun Sentinel, Fort Lauderdale News, The Miami Herald, Florida Today, namus,gov

Wanna Connect?

  • Follow us on instagram @Cold_and_Missing to keep up with active cases and see pictures discussed in the episode
  • Have a case you want us to cover? Want to tell us your thoughts about an episode? Email us at coldandmissing@gmail.com
Transcript
1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780
The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts.

2
00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400
All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

3
00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160
Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages.

4
00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560
Listener discretion is advised.

5
00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280
I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.

6
00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680
And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.

7
00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,360
And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases.

8
00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,920
Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing.

9
00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,720
I'm your host, Ali.

10
00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,520
And I'm your co-host, Eli.

11
00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,880
Welcome back everyone.

12
00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,240
At the top, I just always like to say thank you.

13
00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:50,500
This past week we saw a lot of follows on our Instagram page, a lot of sharing, a lot

14
00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:52,800
of commenting, a lot of reading and reviewing.

15
00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,480
So thank you to everyone who's just taken a little bit of time out of their day to show

16
00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,560
some support for the podcast.

17
00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,060
We appreciate you so much.

18
00:01:01,060 --> 00:01:02,700
The kindness is overwhelming.

19
00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:04,620
So thank you so much.

20
00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:09,880
But with that, we are on a missing person case this week.

21
00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:10,880
That's right.

22
00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,280
We are on episode 122.

23
00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,080
Would you like to get us started?

24
00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,080
Yep.

25
00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,240
Let's get into it.

26
00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:24,200
So just as a bit of a content warning at the top, this case does involve a young person.

27
00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:30,360
Today we are talking about the missing person case of Maurice Red Jefferson.

28
00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:36,280
And this takes place in November of 1983 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

29
00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,560
But first, a little bit about Maurice.

30
00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,320
Maurice is 16 years old in 1983.

31
00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:48,620
He also goes by the nickname Red, given to him because of his striking red hair against

32
00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:50,760
his black skin.

33
00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,160
His mother, Bettye Bridges, says, quote, his color changes with the sun.

34
00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,120
On a hot day, it looks bright orange in tone.

35
00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,680
It's really unique, end quote.

36
00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,200
Maurice is a 10th grader at Dillard High School in Fort Lauderdale.

37
00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,240
At school, he is known for being soft spoken and kind.

38
00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,640
He was part of the ROTC.

39
00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:18,580
He held strong religious convictions and had been in his church choir for a long time.

40
00:02:18,580 --> 00:02:23,160
He ended up quitting the choir because the rehearsals conflicted with his basketball

41
00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,680
practice.

42
00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,560
He loved basketball and was part of the junior varsity team.

43
00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,720
He had big plans for his life.

44
00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,960
He wanted to go to medical school and become a doctor.

45
00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,840
At this time in 1983, Maurice lived with his grandparents on the 200 block of Northwest

46
00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,080
30th Terrace in Fort Lauderdale.

47
00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,460
He lived with his grandparents to finish out high school.

48
00:02:47,460 --> 00:02:53,280
Maurice's mother had recently remarried a man who was a pastor of a church in Alabama.

49
00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,080
So Maurice spent a lot of time in both Florida and Alabama, but his school days were at his

50
00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,840
grandparents' house.

51
00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:05,440
In 1983, Maurice was around 5 foot 11 and 120 pounds.

52
00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:11,840
He had his noticeable red hair, but also walked with a distinct bow-legged gait.

53
00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,840
And now a timeline of events.

54
00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,440
On Monday, November 28, 1983.

55
00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,920
It started as a typical Monday for Red.

56
00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:24,320
He went to school and came home.

57
00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,760
He took a quick nap on the couch and when he woke up, he snacked on some popcorn and

58
00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,320
called a friend from school.

59
00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,840
He then started to get ready for basketball practice.

60
00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,840
Maurice is wearing white shorts with a blue stripe, a white shirt, and white sneakers

61
00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,140
with white tube socks.

62
00:03:42,140 --> 00:03:47,320
At around 520 p.m., Maurice waves goodbye to his grandmother and starts walking to basketball

63
00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,060
practice.

64
00:03:49,060 --> 00:03:52,460
The walk to practice would have been around 30 minutes.

65
00:03:52,460 --> 00:03:57,800
His grandmother did note that Red did leave a little early for practice on that Monday

66
00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,140
night.

67
00:03:59,140 --> 00:04:03,040
He wanted to stop by his girlfriend's house, who lived only a few blocks away from the

68
00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,600
school.

69
00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:10,580
All things considered, he was only leaving 30 minutes earlier than he needed to for practice.

70
00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:15,800
So here is where there is some difference in the timeline over the years.

71
00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:21,120
Today, when the story is reported, this is the last time that Red was ever seen, leaving

72
00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,320
his grandmother's house.

73
00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,100
Back in 1983, however, there were some different details that came out in the reporting that

74
00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:30,660
will come out through the timeline.

75
00:04:30,660 --> 00:04:36,220
So back to that Monday evening, it's unclear exactly when Maurice's family realized that

76
00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:38,500
something was wrong.

77
00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:43,700
What is reported is that when his family went to police that night, they were told that

78
00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:48,780
police guidelines meant that they would not start investigating until he had been missing

79
00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:51,780
for at least three days.

80
00:04:51,780 --> 00:04:56,440
This would mean that the police started their investigation into Maurice's disappearance

81
00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,940
on Thursday, December 1st, three days after he was last seen.

82
00:05:00,940 --> 00:05:05,400
One of the first places they check is to see if Maurice is with his biological father who

83
00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,920
lived in the area, but he's not there.

84
00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:14,960
Police start to look into if Red could have been a runaway, but nothing points to that.

85
00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,180
Everything that he owned was left in his room, including his wallet, which he had left sitting

86
00:05:20,180 --> 00:05:22,460
on the TV after school.

87
00:05:22,460 --> 00:05:27,580
Also, Maurice didn't have any history of running away and there was nothing going on in his

88
00:05:27,580 --> 00:05:30,900
life that would cause him to run.

89
00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:37,260
On Friday, December 2nd, so he has been missing for four days now, police start going door

90
00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:43,020
to door to talk to neighbors to see if they saw anything on that Monday night.

91
00:05:43,020 --> 00:05:48,260
It's during this canvassing that police find two teenage girls who tell them that they

92
00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:53,880
saw Maurice at Franklin Park shooting baskets with some younger kids on Monday night.

93
00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,580
They believe it was around 7 p.m.

94
00:05:56,580 --> 00:06:01,520
They say they saw two men pull up in a blue and white Oldsmobile.

95
00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,220
One of the men in the car offered Maurice a ride, but when he refused the offer, the

96
00:06:06,220 --> 00:06:09,300
two men forced him into the car and sped away.

97
00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:14,900
It's at this point that police start treating his case as an abduction.

98
00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:19,460
Over the weekend, friends, family, and teammates spend the weekend hanging up missing person

99
00:06:19,460 --> 00:06:23,140
posters for Red all over Fort Lauderdale.

100
00:06:23,140 --> 00:06:25,300
His mother is lost for words.

101
00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:28,980
But he says, quote, We can't understand what happened.

102
00:06:28,980 --> 00:06:31,100
Maurice didn't have an enemy in the world.

103
00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:32,860
It doesn't make any sense.

104
00:06:32,860 --> 00:06:34,460
End quote.

105
00:06:34,460 --> 00:06:40,300
His mother also can't believe that no one has seen him due to his distinct red hair.

106
00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:43,300
Police asked the FBI to get involved in the case.

107
00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:48,620
They quickly agree, but almost as quickly pull out of the investigation.

108
00:06:48,620 --> 00:06:54,080
They say that they're able to find a witness who says that they saw Maurice a few hours

109
00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,380
after he was reportedly seen being forced into the Oldsmobile.

110
00:06:59,380 --> 00:07:04,220
Because of this, the FBI does not believe an abduction took place and therefore they

111
00:07:04,220 --> 00:07:07,020
should not be involved in the case.

112
00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:12,960
The days turn into weeks and 1983 rolls into 1984.

113
00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:19,620
By the end of January 1984, so Maurice has been missing for two months at this point,

114
00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:22,720
police have no leads in the case.

115
00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,540
The family at this point has hired a private investigator to help them in their search,

116
00:07:27,540 --> 00:07:31,140
but he also hasn't turned up any leads.

117
00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:37,700
The PI says, quote, If I had to make a guess, I'd say foul play is the answer.

118
00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:41,900
Maybe the world came crashing down on his shoulders and he just took off.

119
00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:45,660
If it's not that, then yes, I would have to assume that he is dead.

120
00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:46,660
End quote.

121
00:07:46,660 --> 00:07:50,780
His family, however, stays optimistic that Red will come home.

122
00:07:50,780 --> 00:07:56,020
They keep three Bibles open at their homes at all times, showing that they have not closed

123
00:07:56,020 --> 00:07:57,340
the book on Maurice.

124
00:07:57,340 --> 00:08:02,820
They do believe firmly, though, that if Maurice had the ability to call them, he would have

125
00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:04,060
by now.

126
00:08:04,060 --> 00:08:07,880
He would not go this long without talking to his family.

127
00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,500
After this, the case truly seems to go cold.

128
00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:17,100
The next update I could find is in August of 1985, so Maurice has been missing for almost

129
00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:19,260
two years at this point.

130
00:08:19,260 --> 00:08:25,460
On August 8th of 1985, the family celebrates Red's 18th birthday.

131
00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:30,380
His mother says, quote, We haven't stopped looking for him and we want to hear him.

132
00:08:30,380 --> 00:08:32,060
End quote.

133
00:08:32,060 --> 00:08:36,020
Investigators assigned to his case say that they are no closer to finding him than they

134
00:08:36,020 --> 00:08:39,180
were when he first went missing.

135
00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:44,300
Throughout the rest of the 80s and the 90s, Maurice's missing person poster will appear

136
00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:47,460
in newspapers from time to time.

137
00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:52,900
When it is listed, he is shown as a non-family abduction.

138
00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:57,860
But it's here that we start seeing his last known whereabouts as leaving for basketball

139
00:08:57,860 --> 00:08:58,860
practice.

140
00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:05,380
Slowly, over the years, the story of him being forced into a car will fall out of the narrative.

141
00:09:05,380 --> 00:09:11,220
It's unclear if police have officially ruled this out, that it didn't happen, or if it's

142
00:09:11,220 --> 00:09:17,180
just a detail that has kind of been lost in the reporting over the years.

143
00:09:17,180 --> 00:09:24,460
In 2009, so it's been over 25 years since Red vanished, local media coverage is drummed

144
00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:28,700
up when a small film company announces that they want to make a documentary about his

145
00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:30,180
case.

146
00:09:30,180 --> 00:09:34,420
To date, it doesn't appear that the film has been released or not anywhere that I could

147
00:09:34,420 --> 00:09:35,420
find.

148
00:09:35,420 --> 00:09:40,340
Red's grandmother is still alive at this time and she still hopes to know what happened

149
00:09:40,340 --> 00:09:42,060
to Maurice.

150
00:09:42,060 --> 00:09:47,480
She says, quote, I've always said it's like the earth opened up and swallowed him.

151
00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,900
What happened to him?

152
00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:51,240
We don't know, end quote.

153
00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:57,340
She says that she has lived in the same house with the same phone number since 1983, so

154
00:09:57,340 --> 00:10:02,140
that if Maurice ever needed to reach out or could reach out, he would know exactly how

155
00:10:02,140 --> 00:10:05,460
to get a hold of his family.

156
00:10:05,460 --> 00:10:12,140
But that is truly all we know about the disappearance of Maurice Red Jefferson.

157
00:10:12,140 --> 00:10:18,820
If you know anything about the disappearance of Maurice Red Jefferson in November of 1983

158
00:10:18,820 --> 00:10:30,220
or his whereabouts today, please call the Bower County Sheriff's Office at 954-321-4735.

159
00:10:30,220 --> 00:10:34,900
So that is the case of Maurice Red Jefferson.

160
00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:43,060
I just want to start off my response with commenting on what a dedicated, steadfast

161
00:10:43,060 --> 00:10:47,180
young man he sounded like.

162
00:10:47,180 --> 00:10:54,740
It sounded like he had goals that he wanted to reach and was really trying to move his

163
00:10:54,740 --> 00:10:57,380
life forward.

164
00:10:57,380 --> 00:11:03,820
Him having Red hair and having the nickname Red is something that's very familiar to me

165
00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:07,900
because I also have Red hair and that was a nickname, continues to be a nickname of

166
00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:09,460
mine.

167
00:11:09,460 --> 00:11:17,260
And when you do have Red hair, it is something that's consistently notable about you and

168
00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:20,380
that's very clear here too.

169
00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:26,820
And I did see the pictures of him now and I'm excited for our listeners to see them

170
00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:27,820
in the graphics.

171
00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:35,220
But I love that in all areas of his life he was very committed to everything that he did.

172
00:11:35,220 --> 00:11:41,820
Even having to choose between singing in basketball and landing in basketball.

173
00:11:41,820 --> 00:11:45,220
I just enjoyed hearing how motivated he was.

174
00:11:45,220 --> 00:11:51,780
Yeah, he was a young man who just had really big dreams and goals and I feel this way about

175
00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:53,380
every missing person case.

176
00:11:53,380 --> 00:12:02,820
But especially here this feels like an instance where it's like what a remarkable person that

177
00:12:02,820 --> 00:12:08,180
vanished and it's like we all have lost out because he did not get to reach these goals

178
00:12:08,180 --> 00:12:11,340
or wherever his life was going to take him.

179
00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:18,300
It seems like we all missed out on his impact because of something that happened in 1983.

180
00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:30,660
Yeah, the way he went missing, it stands out because it really does seem like he vanished

181
00:12:30,660 --> 00:12:35,420
or was plucked from the earth's surface.

182
00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:42,820
I have so many more questions that I know can't be answered within this moment about

183
00:12:42,820 --> 00:12:51,300
this case but I do think it's very important to continue to ask those questions when people

184
00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:55,300
who are related to this person are still alive in this case.

185
00:12:55,300 --> 00:13:01,400
I think that there are answers out there so I'm eager to ask you these questions.

186
00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:11,900
My first one being how was that the law back in 1983 where it needed to be three days for

187
00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:14,260
a minor?

188
00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:18,700
I just want to hear more about that on your end.

189
00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:22,420
Maybe you know more but that was shocking.

190
00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:23,420
It's shocking.

191
00:13:23,420 --> 00:13:24,500
I couldn't believe.

192
00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:26,980
I've never heard of three days waiting period.

193
00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:31,700
I've heard of a 24 hour waiting period but never have I heard of three days especially

194
00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:34,300
for a 16 year old.

195
00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:42,880
So that was shocking and I feel like we would be remiss to not think that there could be

196
00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:50,420
racism playing into this with a black family coming to the police looking for a teenager

197
00:13:50,420 --> 00:13:54,100
and them kind of brushing it off for three days.

198
00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:56,700
I don't know if that really was the guidelines.

199
00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:01,460
I tried to research and try to find other instances of it but I couldn't pull anything

200
00:14:01,460 --> 00:14:02,460
up.

201
00:14:02,460 --> 00:14:03,460
That doesn't mean it's not there.

202
00:14:03,460 --> 00:14:11,020
I couldn't find exactly what I was looking for without access to old records and things

203
00:14:11,020 --> 00:14:12,500
that just aren't online.

204
00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:19,900
So I don't know but that is what the family says that they were told and that is bonkers

205
00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:20,900
to me.

206
00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:29,220
Yeah and to continue on the narrative that I also think is true that he is not a runaway.

207
00:14:29,220 --> 00:14:35,380
To give that some more validity people don't leave their things behind when they're trying

208
00:14:35,380 --> 00:14:36,660
to run away.

209
00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:42,120
I think it's different if they are fleeing an environment but that means you're usually

210
00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:47,400
fleeing an emergency situation and that simply was not the case here.

211
00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,560
To call this a runaway when all of his things were left behind when he was waving goodbye

212
00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,740
as he was leaving is wrong.

213
00:14:56,740 --> 00:14:58,080
I don't know.

214
00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,940
It didn't make sense to me how that narrative even came up when it so clearly was not the

215
00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:04,940
case.

216
00:15:04,940 --> 00:15:15,120
Yeah, you know it almost felt like to me that investigators at the time were kind of scrambling.

217
00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,980
They knew they had really messed up waiting three days.

218
00:15:18,980 --> 00:15:23,980
They find these witnesses that say they saw an abduction which I know brings up its own

219
00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:28,940
questions but you know he didn't show up again.

220
00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:31,620
Runaways usually would have surfaced anyway by three days.

221
00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:32,980
He's not at his dad's house.

222
00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:36,860
He's not anywhere that he should be.

223
00:15:36,860 --> 00:15:42,620
No relatives house, no friends houses and then they hear these two teenage girls stories

224
00:15:42,620 --> 00:15:51,580
so it's like I think they really kind of scrambled quickly to try to reverse time, try to get

225
00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:55,500
a lead but like the trail really seemed like it had already gone cold by the time they

226
00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,540
had started investigating.

227
00:15:57,540 --> 00:16:07,220
Yeah and what that scrambling led to was the FBI coming in and then backing out and that

228
00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:14,900
right there was really really unfortunate because they were accessing resources that

229
00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:20,580
could have really been helpful in this case but the FBI had nothing to work on but still

230
00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:29,860
them choosing to not advocate for this missing person or lean in a little bit more is confusing

231
00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:31,180
to me.

232
00:16:31,180 --> 00:16:37,340
Granted this was so many years ago and I don't know what was going on at the time but it

233
00:16:37,340 --> 00:16:45,020
also seemed like an odd choice to me for them to back out of continuing to investigate.

234
00:16:45,020 --> 00:16:50,900
Yeah and that kind of brings us around to the witnesses these two teenage girls that

235
00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:58,460
say they saw a blue and white Oldsmobile pull up, offer Maurice a ride and when he refused

236
00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:01,220
they forced him into the car.

237
00:17:01,220 --> 00:17:07,060
So the FBI says they found a witness who says that a few hours after that event was supposed

238
00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:09,620
to have happened they did see Maurice.

239
00:17:09,620 --> 00:17:17,020
We never get any details of where he was seen, what his condition was like, what any circumstance

240
00:17:17,020 --> 00:17:21,180
was around that we just hear that that's what they found so they don't believe that an

241
00:17:21,180 --> 00:17:24,820
abduction took place from that.

242
00:17:24,820 --> 00:17:27,300
So that's the FBI.

243
00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:30,180
But then it gets us back to the two teenage girls.

244
00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:32,740
So what happened there?

245
00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:35,120
Did police rule that story out?

246
00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:38,060
Has it ever been able to be ruled out officially?

247
00:17:38,060 --> 00:17:44,060
It brings up a ton of questions and kind of feels like you know a key piece like is this

248
00:17:44,060 --> 00:17:48,100
part of the narrative or not and police to my knowledge have never come out and said

249
00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:49,420
one way or the other.

250
00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:54,980
Yeah I mean one of the last things I wrote down as I was listening to you discuss the

251
00:17:54,980 --> 00:18:01,740
timeline was that it seems like to me details like this should not be muddled when there

252
00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:03,420
are so few.

253
00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:08,540
This was one area where there was a lot of detail about the possibility of what happened

254
00:18:08,540 --> 00:18:12,100
to him and it was just dropped.

255
00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:19,140
Yeah as I've mentioned over the years this possible abduction that detailed these witnesses

256
00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:20,140
it gets dropped.

257
00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:27,580
They don't talk about it you know in 2009, 2005 there were some articles and they don't

258
00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:29,620
necessarily talk about this abduction.

259
00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:40,820
So I don't know if it has been ruled out officially but his case is labeled as a non-family abduction.

260
00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:45,940
So that is still how the police seem to be handling his case.

261
00:18:45,940 --> 00:18:52,420
Hearing the last detail about his grandmother and that you know she lives in the same house,

262
00:18:52,420 --> 00:19:02,460
has the same number it's such an echo of how the loved ones of a missing person their lives

263
00:19:02,460 --> 00:19:08,020
stand still the moment they go missing and I could really feel that and just you reading

264
00:19:08,020 --> 00:19:15,860
that simple statement of fact like she lives in the same house, has the same number.

265
00:19:15,860 --> 00:19:24,220
Something about that while it can be very beautiful in this case it felt like she stood

266
00:19:24,220 --> 00:19:32,820
still in time and it's just waiting for him to come home and with this case being in the

267
00:19:32,820 --> 00:19:37,780
80s I don't think time has to stand still for these people anymore.

268
00:19:37,780 --> 00:19:40,540
I think that this case is solvable.

269
00:19:40,540 --> 00:19:47,700
Yeah I really hope for the family that they are able to bring Red home that they're able

270
00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:51,100
to get answers in this.

271
00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:59,860
You know I know his mom still advocates very fiercely for his case so I really hope that

272
00:19:59,860 --> 00:20:05,180
we're able to get momentum on his case and get the answers that we're looking for because

273
00:20:05,180 --> 00:20:08,340
I do feel like they're out there.

274
00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:14,140
There's there's more here there's more details there's more to be uncovered in this case

275
00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:22,740
so again if you know anything about the disappearance of Maurice Red Jefferson in November of 1983

276
00:20:22,740 --> 00:20:33,420
or his whereabouts today please call the Bower County Sheriff's Office at 954-321-4735.

277
00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:39,780
So we will have pictures of Maurice on our Instagram you'll see his striking red hair

278
00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:45,180
and there's also a few age progressions of what he would look like into his 30s and 40s

279
00:20:45,180 --> 00:20:48,060
so more of what he would look like today.

280
00:20:48,060 --> 00:20:52,340
So if you want to see those please check them out please share them in your communities

281
00:20:52,340 --> 00:20:56,620
get his name out there get his case out there get his picture out there so we can get some

282
00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:59,820
more coverage for Red.

283
00:20:59,820 --> 00:21:03,860
Again thank you so much to everyone who has rated and reviewed us these past few weeks

284
00:21:03,860 --> 00:21:09,340
we appreciate it so much and now that I can see all the international reviews I am overwhelmed

285
00:21:09,340 --> 00:21:16,260
by how many places are listening in how many countries getting these stories out there

286
00:21:16,260 --> 00:21:21,900
so thank you so much for listening for sharing for telling people about this podcast it is

287
00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:26,300
so appreciative and you know there's a lot going on in the world there's a lot going

288
00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:30,380
on in everybody's lives at all times so just the fact that you're taking a minute to talk

289
00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:36,140
about the podcast or to write something about it it means the world and it's very thoughtful

290
00:21:36,140 --> 00:21:38,180
so thank you.

291
00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:46,300
And we will also have up on our website www.coldandmissing.com we have all our old episodes on there you can

292
00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:50,740
rate and review us there as well or if you want to reach out to us you can do that there

293
00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:55,320
and we also have transcripts so if you or someone you love is hard of hearing you can

294
00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:02,200
follow along with the podcast there as well but that is all I have for you this week thank

295
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:08,180
you so much for listening to cold and missing I'm your host Ali and I'm your co-host Eli

296
00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:25,460
have a good week and stay safe y'all stay safe y'all.

New to Cold and Missing?

Here are some great episodes to start with. Or, check out episodes by topic.