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The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts.
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All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages.
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Listener discretion is advised.
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I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.
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And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.
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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases.
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Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing.
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I'm your host, Ali, and I just wanted to bring you a quick update.
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Last week, we brought you the cold case of Pat Shea.
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And I had the chance to connect with her nephew, Kevin Shea, who was able to give us some updates
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on the case and also clarify some information that was written in the newspapers at the
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time that was incorrect.
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So he was able to clarify and give us the correct facts.
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So I just wanted to bring you a quick update, a quick little correction episode, just to
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get some of these facts correct.
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Because here at Cold and Missing, we're all about bringing you the most accurate information
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because we never know what piece of information is going to be that thing that finally brings
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closure and answer to the families.
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So if you haven't listened to last week's episode, I do recommend you go back and listen
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so that way you can understand more about who Pat was as a person and who she was in
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her community.
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One thing that her nephew, Kevin, said that I thought was really poignant, quote, a person
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like my aunt Pat, who gives so much to their community deserves justice, particularly given
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the circumstances, end quote.
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And I talked a lot about that last week on our episode, just what an amazing person Pat
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was in their community.
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So right there with the family, we absolutely need justice in this case.
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But just to go ahead and jump into some of the corrections that I wanted to get out there,
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Pat was 44 years old in 1982.
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I had reported and newspapers reported at that time that she was 40, but she was actually
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44.
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When Pat went missing, she was dropped off at the side entrance of her building.
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She was seen headed towards Agnes's building around 11 PM.
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At Aggy's building, there were three known, less than reputable men hanging around the
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building.
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Two of these men were questioned and giving polygraph tests, which they passed.
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The third man is the person of interest, a blonde man that we talked about in our last
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episode.
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And if you'll remember from the timeline last week, Aggy had said that the blonde man had
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hurt Pat.
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Here's some additional things that I learned about the person of interest.
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He is still alive.
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He was known to have been in the building for an extended period of time the night that
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Pat went missing.
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He worked as a confidential informant for the New York Police Department in Brooklyn,
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South.
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He officially started in 1984, but Pat's family believed that he could have been working
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with police off of the books during the time of Pat's murder.
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This man particularly was not asked to take a polygraph test, despite the other two men
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taking polygraph tests.
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Pat's family would like this informant to be brought in for an official polygraph regarding
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Pat's murder.
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This man has also worked with the police in other murder cases and has a violent criminal
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history.
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And it seems like lots of investigators who have worked Pat's case heavily suspect that
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it is this person of interest, but no charges have been brought against him.
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Another thing that we had talked about in the timeline was that evidence had been destroyed
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by Superstorm Sandy.
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Now according to Kevin, this is untrue.
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The evidence was simply lost.
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The flooding of the evidence room that came from a lead detective at the time, that's
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Detective Simon, who we talked about a bit in the timeline.
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He was the one who said that it had been lost due to flooding, but Pat's family is actively
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asking for this to be found, for it to be located.
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The evidence appears to be missing from the locker it should have been in.
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The specific evidence missing is her clothing and the man's shirt that was found next to
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her body.
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Despite not having these pieces at this moment, them being lost, hopefully they are found
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soon, but police do have the rope that was wrapped around Pat.
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And Kevin is pushing for the NYPD and the DA's office to test the rope found at the
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scene for DNA.
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The police have never tested the rope, but they still have it in their possession.
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To me personally, this seems like a slam dunk of evidence.
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I have seen other cold cases really get a lot of evidence from rope.
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And specifically, those knot areas can be really great places for touch DNA and new
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DNA technology to kind of get at.
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So I really hope that the NYPD takes Pat's family's requests seriously, because I do
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think that a lot could come from testing that rope.
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And then Kevin is also pushing to have the fingernail scrapings from his Aunt Pat retested
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with more sensitive and new technology.
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However, this would have to be done outside of the NYPD, as the NYPD doesn't do this
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specific testing.
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So he's trying to work with police to get that done as well.
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Another thing that Kevin mentioned to me that I thought was interesting was in 2009, Kevin's
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father, so that would be Pat's brother, was swabbed for DNA by police.
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The swab was so police would have part of Pat's DNA on file.
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However, there is no record of this event happening.
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There's no notes, there's no write ups, and there's no results of the DNA.
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None of this is in with Pat's file, despite many people witnessing it and also remembering
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the swab happening.
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However, the file was not updated.
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For what reason?
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I don't know.
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And then Kevin was also able to provide a little bit more information about that letter.
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So that's something that I really got hung up on in the last episode, because it's just
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so odd.
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And if you looked at our Instagram, you'll see the pictures on there and everything of
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the letter.
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However, according to Kevin, police were able to track down the writer of the letter.
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And it turned out that the author was a distant relative of the police officer who was accused
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of Pat's murder in the letter.
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So this was just somebody trying to really throw somebody under the bus and just created
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a lot of noise, a lot of mess around Pat's case that didn't need to be there.
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So those are the updates and corrections that I have on Pat's case.
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Again, I do recommend that you go back and listen to the full episode where we really
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get into the timeline, we get into who Pat was in her community.
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But with these updates, and if you already listened to last week's episode, hopefully
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this helps shed some more light on Pat's case and we're able to get some more information
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for her family and we're able to get this case solved.
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Now knowing a little bit more about the case and knowing that police have this rope, I'm
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really hopeful that justice will be seen in this case and that Pat's family will get the
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answers that they've been looking for and the justice that they've been looking for.
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If you know anything about the murder of Pat Shea in July of 1982, please call the currently
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detective, Detective Ann Marie Burngozzi at 212-239-2256.
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In the future, we are hoping to have Kevin, Pat's nephew on the podcast to talk a little
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bit more in depth about her, her case and the work that he's doing trying to get the
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NYPD to bring justice and get this solved.
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So I think that conversation will be really illuminating, not only about who Pat was as
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a person, but about the case and about the work that, you know, the family ultimately
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like ends up bearing in so many of these cold cases that we cover.
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So that is hopefully coming down the pipeline.
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But that is all I have for my updates this week.
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We are still going to have our regular episode come out later this week of a new case, but
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it's really important to me that we get these corrections out and in the future when we
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have corrections or need to update, I think this is how we will do it with just kind of
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a one small bonus episode coming out so that way we pay respect and get those corrections
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and it doesn't get mixed up with a different case or like kind of lost anywhere.
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I want all of the information to be very easily findable for anybody else who's looking.
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So thank you for listening to Cold and Missing.
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I'm your host, Allie.
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We'll talk to you later this week.
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Have a good week and stay safe, y'all.
