Cold and Missing: Regina McCorkle

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,440 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,120 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,420 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages and is intended for a mature 4 00:00:22,420 --> 00:00:23,620 audience. 5 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:34,160 Listener discretion is advised. 6 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:35,560 Welcome back everyone. 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,560 Welcome back everyone. 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,840 I am your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski. 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,360 And I am your co-host, Eli Sulkowski. 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,360 And this is Cold and Missing. 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Where we focus exclusively on... 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,640 Cold cases. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,640 And missing person cases. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Alright, my love, what do you have for us this week? 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,920 I have a missing person case this week. 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Alright, I think we should get into it. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,720 Let's do it. 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Great. 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,760 So today we are going to be talking about the unresolved missing person case of Regina 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,880 McCorkle. 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:12,080 And this takes place in August of 1981 in East Moline, Illinois. 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,920 But first a little bit about Regina. 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Regina also goes by Gina. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,360 She was 19 years old in 1981. 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:27,360 She was born October 16, 1961 and she would be 61 years old today. 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Regina lived at her mother's house on the 1500 block of 11th Avenue in East Moline, 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,280 Illinois. 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:40,080 She and her 18 month old son, CJ, moved in after she divorced her ex-husband, Curtis 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,080 Campbell. 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:47,600 East Moline is located in the Quad Cities, which is a metropolitan area on the border 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,200 of Illinois and Iowa. 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,000 It's made up of a lot of cities, but there's four major cities, hence Quad Cities. 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,780 Regina is described as a quiet, responsible, and loving mother. 34 00:01:59,780 --> 00:02:03,000 She loves playing tennis and watching movies. 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,880 Regina worked on the custodial staff at the Rock Island Arsenal and she worked night 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,440 shifts there so that way she could go to college during the day. 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:17,200 She had recently saved up her money from her job and bought a 1979 Mustang. 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,920 So now a timeline of events. 39 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:29,000 On Friday, August 14, 1981, Regina's mother, Jean McCorkle, leaves for work between 830 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,360 and 845. 41 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,580 Jean says, quote, I woke her up before I left for work Friday. 42 00:02:34,580 --> 00:02:38,000 She was standing in her bedroom doorway when I walked out the door. 43 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,260 Things were fine, end quote. 44 00:02:40,260 --> 00:02:45,400 When Jean leaves, Regina is wearing her nightgown and she doesn't notice any strange behavior. 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,760 James Piller, Regina's boyfriend, says that he talked on the phone with her until 930 46 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,760 that morning. 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,040 James didn't have a car, so Regina had agreed to pick him up and take him to apply 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,320 for a job, but she'll never show up. 49 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:04,040 Curtis Campbell, her ex-husband, said he showed up around 10 a.m. to talk to Regina. 50 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,840 He knocked on the front door but left when he didn't get an answer. 51 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Detective Ernie Manrique, who was working her case, says, quote, we think that she probably 52 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,760 left home at about 11 a.m., but it really could have been any time between 930 and when 53 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,480 her mother returned home, end quote. 54 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,720 Jean returns home between 4 and 430 that afternoon. 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,800 The first thing Jean notices is Regina's car is parked behind the house. 56 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Since Regina worked night shifts, she should have left already to drop her son off at the 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,180 babysitter's. 58 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:39,360 Jean then notices that the front door is locked from the inside. 59 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,200 The screen door on the front door had been locked, so there was no way that she could 60 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,520 unlock it from the outside. 61 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,100 Jean knocks on the front door, but there's no response. 62 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:54,000 So then she goes around to the back door and she also finds that it's locked in the same 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 way. 64 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,600 It's locked from the inside. 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,440 At this point, she begins to panic. 66 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:05,720 So Jean goes to Regina's window, but she hears nothing except for her grandson crying. 67 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:11,620 Now completely panicked, Jean rips out the screen and breaks into her own home. 68 00:04:11,620 --> 00:04:14,720 She finds CJ locked in Regina's room. 69 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,040 He's upset, but unharmed. 70 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,420 Regina is nowhere to be found. 71 00:04:20,420 --> 00:04:22,560 There are no signs of a struggle. 72 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,280 Regina's bed was unmade, which was unusual for her. 73 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:32,500 The only things missing was the nightgown she was wearing and the top sheet of her bed. 74 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:37,960 Her clothes, shoes, ID, money, and purse were all accounted for. 75 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,840 A basement screen window had been removed, but police are unsure if it was removed from 76 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:45,620 the outside or the inside of the home. 77 00:04:45,620 --> 00:04:48,400 It was found laying on the basement floor. 78 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,160 Police believe the only way out was through the basement window since all the doors were 79 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,280 locked from the inside. 80 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:57,720 Jean calls police, but they advise her to wait 48 hours. 81 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,560 The next day, Saturday, August 15th, Jean calls the FBI. 82 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,800 She tells local news that they asked her if Regina was white or black. 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,920 She asked what difference that made since it was her baby that was missing. 84 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Now it's unclear exactly when police get involved, but my guess is that on Monday, August 17th, 85 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,640 they're officially involved in the case. 86 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,400 That would be over 48 hours that Regina had been missing. 87 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,200 And by Tuesday, August 18th, this is four days now she's been missing, police begin 88 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,640 to receive tips. 89 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,920 In the morning hours, East Moline police receive an anonymous tip that Regina is being held 90 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,540 in an abandoned building in Davenport, Iowa. 91 00:05:39,540 --> 00:05:46,080 Since this crosses state lines, the FBI are assisting, but the FBI will never open a full 92 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,160 case for Regina. 93 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,960 They'll just assist local police. 94 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Police search two abandoned buildings and find nothing. 95 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:00,120 That afternoon, another anonymous tip will be called in, this time to Davenport police, 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,560 saying the same thing, that she's being held in an abandoned building. 97 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Five additional buildings are searched, but again, nothing is found. 98 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,280 A third tip comes in that Regina was seen riding a maroon motorcycle around 1pm the 99 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,520 day she disappeared, less than a mile from her home. 100 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,520 Police are never able to verify this claim. 101 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:26,680 On Wednesday, August 19th, this is five days now, police are pleading with the public for 102 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:27,680 help. 103 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,000 They say the smallest clue could break the case wide open. 104 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Detective Ernie Manrique says, quote, we are assuming she was kidnapped. 105 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,960 We think she's still alive, probably somewhere in the Quad City area, probably in Davenport, 106 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,120 end quote. 107 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:47,320 On Tuesday, August 25th, this is 11 days now Regina has been missing. 108 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:54,400 James, Regina's boyfriend, passes a polygraph test with flying colors, according to police, 109 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,640 and is eliminated as a suspect. 110 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,820 Curtis, her ex-husband, refuses to answer questions or take a polygraph test based on 111 00:07:02,820 --> 00:07:04,680 advice from his lawyer. 112 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,360 But police really want him to, and they talk about it a lot in the newspapers, how much 113 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,920 they want him to take a polygraph test. 114 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:18,000 On Wednesday, August 26th, 12 days now Regina has been missing, police continue to receive 115 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,080 tips but none of them pan out. 116 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,480 Detective Ernie Manrique says, quote, this is really frustrating. 117 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,800 We're hoping she's still alive, but we just don't know. 118 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,720 We're just hoping something pops up so we can get some evidence against whoever did 119 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,880 it, if it really happened, end quote. 120 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,040 Meanwhile, her family is worried sick about her. 121 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,560 Her mother Jean says, quote, I'm scared to leave the house in case the phone rings. 122 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,100 It might be somebody who knows something about my little girl, end quote. 123 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:51,760 When asked about what she thinks happened, Jean says, quote, I know somebody must have 124 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,880 come in here. 125 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,900 There's no way she would have just left the baby here alone. 126 00:07:55,900 --> 00:07:57,760 And she just bought her little car. 127 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,180 She wouldn't have left that just sitting in the driveway, end quote. 128 00:08:01,180 --> 00:08:06,720 On Friday, August 28th, two weeks now Regina has been missing, a concerned citizen named 129 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:15,040 Max Bandi starts a reward fund with $100 in hopes of raising $1,500 and bringing answers 130 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,200 to what happened to Regina. 131 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,340 In a press release, Max said if she was not found within 24 months, it would be placed 132 00:08:22,340 --> 00:08:24,680 in a trust for her son. 133 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:30,280 On Thursday, September 3rd, a candlelight vigil is held at the Community Church of God 134 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,400 in Christ, just shy of three weeks of Regina being missing. 135 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:40,080 The vigil is sponsored by the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and the modest 14-pew 136 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,560 church is filled with friends, family, and strangers touched by the news of Regina's 137 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:47,000 disappearance. 138 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,520 Jean sat weeping in the front row. 139 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:55,400 It's also around this time that the NAACP has agreed to work with police in talking 140 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,800 with neighbors who otherwise might not want to talk to police or be afraid to. 141 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,480 In October of 1981, police have no new leads. 142 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,960 They say they receive about one tip a week, but none of them have led to Regina. 143 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:15,720 In November of 1981, this is about three months now Regina has been missing, police are still 144 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,160 at square one. 145 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,240 Detective Ernie Manrique says, quote, we believe she's still alive. 146 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,240 We don't know if foul play is a part of her disappearance. 147 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,800 It's possible she just left on her own. 148 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,320 It's possible she was abducted, end quote. 149 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Police are still running down each tip, but those have started to stop coming in. 150 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Detective Manrique does mention, quote, everybody I've talked to is afraid. 151 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,560 I don't know why, end quote. 152 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:44,960 In January of 1982, the new year, tips have almost completely stopped coming in regarding 153 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Regina's case. 154 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,960 In August of 1982, Regina has been missing for one year. 155 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,360 Police are still at a standstill with the case. 156 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Her mother Jean believes that part of the issue is the fact that it was raining the 157 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,240 day that Regina disappeared. 158 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,120 If it had been a nice day out, a lot of the retired folks in the neighborhood would have 159 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,120 been sitting out on their porches. 160 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,440 Jean says, quote, I just wish I knew where my daughter was, not knowing is the hardest 161 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,800 part, end quote. 162 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:19,560 In October of 1996, so this is 15 years now, Regina's family holds a prayer vigil with 163 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:22,080 other families of missing people. 164 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:27,360 Regina's is officially the oldest unresolved missing person case for E. Smollin. 165 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,840 And over the next few years, throughout the 90s and into the early 2000s, police will 166 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,720 continue to run down leads in Regina's case as they receive them. 167 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:42,360 But they don't lead to anything and they almost all fizzle out, according to police. 168 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:48,400 But in March of 2022, so this is almost 40 years now that Regina has been missing, there 169 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,480 is still no sign of Regina, but her mother Jean keeps her memory alive. 170 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,720 She says, quote, I think about my baby every single day. 171 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,920 I can't get it wrapped around my head. 172 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,960 How can a body just disappear and nobody find it? 173 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:01,960 End quote. 174 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Regina has never legally been declared dead. 175 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,200 Her mother says, quote, I have not declared her dead in my heart and I can't bring myself 176 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,480 to put a headstone anywhere. 177 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,480 End quote. 178 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:18,200 Jean reveals that in 2021, Curtis, Regina's ex-husband, called Jean and she confronted 179 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,200 him. 180 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,720 She asked him if he had anything to do with it. 181 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,000 And Curtis swears he had nothing to do with it and that he loved Regina. 182 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,840 But that is all we know about Regina McCorkle. 183 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:37,840 So if you know anything about what happened to Regina in August of 1981, please call the 184 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:45,560 East Moline Police at 309-752-1555. 185 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:52,720 And the sources for today's podcast come from The Dispatch, Quad City Times, The Rock Island 186 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,080 Argus, and those three newspapers covered the story quite heavily. 187 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,080 So I read a lot of articles from those three. 188 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:07,760 And then additionally, our QuadCities.com and the CharlieProject.com. 189 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,380 So do you have any questions? 190 00:12:11,380 --> 00:12:17,320 I think my question for you is like, do you think that she was failed? 191 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Yes. 192 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:26,000 But I say that in I think that any missing person or cold case, I think they all have 193 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 been failed. 194 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Yeah, for sure. 195 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,080 If we're sitting here covering it. 196 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:37,080 Did you think the people who were supposed to do their jobs and solving this case or 197 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,080 gaining more information about it, do you think that they cared? 198 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:47,780 And do you think that they did their job to the fullest extent? 199 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:52,680 I think that they were late to care. 200 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:58,860 I basically just mean that, you know, when she when Jean, Regina's mother initially 201 00:12:58,860 --> 00:13:03,120 calls police, they tell her to wait 48 hours. 202 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,380 And the next day she calls the FBI. 203 00:13:05,380 --> 00:13:08,160 And nobody helps her until that 48 hours. 204 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:13,000 But once that 48 hours happens, people do get involved. 205 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,840 And I didn't go into every lead that was chased down. 206 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:23,840 There was like a big psychic portion of this case that I left out. 207 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:30,360 They Yeah, police actually ended up working with the psychic for around two weeks. 208 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,120 And the psychic actually ended up quitting because she feared for her life. 209 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,960 So there was a lot of leads run down in this case. 210 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:47,440 So I just feel that they were really late, that if they had jumped on it when all of 211 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:54,560 those very suspicious things happened that first day, it could have maybe turned out 212 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:55,560 better. 213 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:59,800 But you put 48 hours in between when you start looking for somebody. 214 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,660 That's a lot of time. 215 00:14:01,660 --> 00:14:03,240 You know? 216 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,740 Yeah. 217 00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:10,840 I would like to clarify who asked the question or said the statement if it even happened. 218 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,240 Was that a police officer? 219 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Yeah, that was Detective Ernie Manrique, who said that. 220 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,520 And it was several weeks after the fact that he said that. 221 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,320 And it was really like police were like, we have no idea what happens. 222 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,560 Like they discount they start to like, in the beginning, it seems like they were very 223 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,240 much this is a kidnapping once they finally get involved with it. 224 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,480 But then they start kind of walking back on that. 225 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,380 And they're like, well, we don't really know what happened. 226 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:44,160 So they start kind of being wishy washy on their stance on that. 227 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Yeah, I think that's where I started to get the feeling of like, they were saying, we 228 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,960 don't really know what happened. 229 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,440 And honestly, we don't really care. 230 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,880 Like that's kind of what it felt like. 231 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:03,200 And again, I know I've said this on other episodes, but like if you are doing that job, 232 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:11,680 100% of the time, your care level needs to be turned up. 233 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:21,880 I think you need a tremendous amount of like discipline with matched empathy to do that 234 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,760 kind of job. 235 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,040 And it's again, it seemed like both were lacking. 236 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:38,200 And what informed me in thinking that honestly, it was like what I have learned about racism. 237 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:46,720 I mean, I feel like I can say with my you know, limited experience in it is that it 238 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,160 was like a microaggression of carelessness. 239 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Yeah, I mean, resources like there could have been more resources pulled for this case. 240 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,960 It does seem like there was just this one detective working on it, detective Ernie Manrique, 241 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,640 as opposed to like a task force or several people working on it. 242 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,640 You know what I mean? 243 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Yeah. 244 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,480 And I don't want to like defend the police, you know, but I do want to acknowledge that 245 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,200 this one detective did run down every lead that he got. 246 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:29,000 So he did his job, but it was like the bare minimum of the job of running down the leads, 247 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,000 you know. 248 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:39,080 You know, I just always feel that more can be done for missing people and for cold cases 249 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,080 for homicides. 250 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Like, there's always more that I would vouch to say, we could do more. 251 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,280 Yes. 252 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:55,040 I'm not I'm not I'm I'm laughing because I have been socialized to laugh through feeling 253 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,040 very uncomfortable. 254 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,720 And I'm uncomfortable right now. 255 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:08,000 I'm always uncomfortable listening to how people's lives were just forgotten about, 256 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,720 you know. 257 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,940 It's also really easy for me to, you know, sit here in an echo chamber and talk about 258 00:17:13,940 --> 00:17:19,840 my problems with whatever, you know. 259 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:30,600 But yeah, I think that, again, it's very messy where there was initially a lot of opportunity 260 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,480 to comb through the messiness. 261 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,240 And that was looked over. 262 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,440 And the mess like set in, you know. 263 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:48,640 Well, yeah, I mean, you have like an 18 month old child locked inside of a bedroom in a 264 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,560 house that's been locked from the inside. 265 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,840 And I read through a couple of different reports to really understood to really understand 266 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,840 what that meant. 267 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:04,120 But it seems like they had a screen door before their front door that you could lock. 268 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:06,480 And this is something that's kind of common in the Midwest. 269 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,520 So that way on nice days, you can have your front door open and get a breeze. 270 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,320 But it's not completely unlocked. 271 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,800 But those can typically only be locked from the inside. 272 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,440 So those were both locked. 273 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,440 And then the door was locked. 274 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,160 It has the little, just like a little latch. 275 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,800 Yeah, there's like a little latch. 276 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,360 Sometimes there's a turn. 277 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:25,840 My house had the little latch. 278 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,040 Yeah, you know exactly what I'm talking about. 279 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,760 So I believe it was that kind of setup. 280 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,440 And so then Jean, when she comes home and finds them both locked, which was out of the 281 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,420 ordinary, they did not do that. 282 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:43,240 She has to rip the screen out and kind of break into her own home. 283 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:49,080 And then police to say that the only way they could have really left since the doors relaxed 284 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,080 from the inside was through that basement window. 285 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,280 It's like that's not somebody who's leaving on their own accord. 286 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:00,960 Like you wouldn't, you're not leaving your own house shoeless in your nightgown through 287 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:01,960 a basement window. 288 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,200 That is very clearly, at least to me, an escape. 289 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:13,200 That is someone who escaped a situation, whether they were, you know, running away or were 290 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,480 pulled out or whatever. 291 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:20,800 Like there was like heightened stakes around that situation around someone leaving through 292 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,240 a basement window. 293 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,080 Yeah, somebody was running out of it or they were forced out of it. 294 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,480 Yeah, those are the only things that could have happened. 295 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:34,040 So there were a lot of reported sightings of Regina throughout the years, but none of 296 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,240 them were ever verified. 297 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,440 This was her 100%. 298 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:45,160 So again, if you know anything about what happened to Regina or her whereabouts today, 299 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:52,880 please call the East Moline Police at 309-752-1555. 300 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,840 Thank you for bringing this case to the forefront of our minds. 301 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,060 And I'm sure, you know, just like myself and for a lot of other people, it's the first 302 00:20:01,060 --> 00:20:02,280 time we're hearing about it. 303 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:09,200 And again, it feels like an echo, but like, I just like, how do we not know about these 304 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,840 unless you like really go digging for them? 305 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,480 And I see you do the work. 306 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:22,800 And some of these cases, I've watched you spend hours to find an article. 307 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:28,120 And it's, I don't know. 308 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:37,600 It's continuously shocking to me, but also I understand how it happens because of systems 309 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,200 in place that harm people who need the most help. 310 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Yeah, our society, unfortunately, is not set up to help vulnerable people and people missing 311 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,600 no matter what their background is, I would say, are vulnerable people. 312 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,240 So our society is not meant to catch them, to hold them, to support them. 313 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,920 So we're always playing catch up in these cases, really, unfortunately. 314 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:10,120 I'm looking forward to creating the graphics for this. 315 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:14,780 She like, yes, she was so beautiful. 316 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:24,920 But in the pictures, you can tell that she had like a deep, quiet love for her family. 317 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,920 Absolutely. 318 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,920 Yeah. 319 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,980 And again, we're going to be posting the graphics that Eli makes on our Instagram. 320 00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:34,480 So please follow us there if you're not already. 321 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,040 We have a lot of followers on there. 322 00:21:36,040 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349 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,400 Sorry I'm always crying. 350 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,480 And have a good week and stay safe y'all. 351 00:22:49,480 --> 00:23:06,720 Stay safe y'all.