Cold and Missing: Reny Jose

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The views and opinions expressed in Cold and

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Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. All

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parties mentioned are considered innocent until

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proven guilty in a court of law. Cold and Missing

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also contains adult themes and languages. Listener

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discretion is advised. I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin

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-Sulkowski. And I'm your co -host, Eli Sulkowski.

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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover

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cold cases and missing person cases. Hello everyone

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and welcome back to Cold and Missing. I'm your

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host, Ali. And I'm your co -host, Eli. Welcome

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back, everyone. Nothing too exciting at the top

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to chit -chat about, so I think we should just

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go ahead and get into it this week. Yeah, I think

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so too. We are on episode 128 and we are on a

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missing persons case. Let's get into it. So just

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as a bit of a content warning at the top. There

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are some mentions of death by suicide throughout

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the podcast. Today, we are talking about the

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missing person case of Reny Jose and this

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takes place in March of 2014 in Panama City Beach,

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Florida. But first, a little bit about Reny.

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Reny is 21 years old in 2014. He is a mechanical

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engineering major at Rice University in Houston,

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Texas. He is a terrific student. He has a 4 .0

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grade point average and was on track to graduate

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the next year. When Reny wasn't working on

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school, he liked to play pickup games of volleyball

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with friends and loved spending time with his

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family. Right as our timeline picks up, Reny
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was about to head out for spring break. He had

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called his mother before he and 22 other students

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headed from Rice University to Panama City Beach.

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Reny and the 22 other students had rented a

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beach house for a week. His mom tells Reny

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to have a good time and to be safe. And now a

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timeline of events. Saturday, March 1, 2014.

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Reny and the other students make it to the

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rental house and get spring break started. The

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house is on Front Beach Road on the west side

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of Panama City Beach. The house sits right on

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the water. It looks beautiful. Over those first

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few days of spring break, it's unclear exactly

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what the friends were getting up to. I imagine

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it was a lot of typical spring break activities,

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hanging out in the sun and partying with friends.

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On Monday, March 3rd, the group has been at the

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beach house since Saturday. Reny was last seen

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around 7 p .m. It's unclear exactly where he

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was seen or what the circumstances exactly were.

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At least one person said that Reny had taken

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LSD that night and had started talking about

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suicide. The last confirmed sighting of Reny

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was 7 p .m. The next day, Tuesday, March 4th,

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that day started like many other days over the

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spring break. A cleaning crew picked up the beach

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at 6 a .m. before spring breakers covered the

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place. At the nearby beach house, Reny’s friends

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started to get worried when there were still

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no signs of him that morning. It appears that

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at some point in those morning to early afternoon

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hours, people from the house found clothing of

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Reny’s, specifically his sleeping pants and

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socks, hanging on a railing near the beach outside.

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The clothes had not been there earlier when the

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cleaning crews had come through, otherwise they

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would have been thrown out. At around 11 a .m.,

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friends call the police to report Reny missing.

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At around 4 p .m., one of Reny’s friends also

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calls his parents to tell them that he is missing.

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Immediately, his parents start making plans to

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head to Florida to look for their son. When police

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arrive to the Beach House, they look around the

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property. They find in a trash can out back more

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of Reny’s clothing and his cell phone. Inside

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Reny’s room in the rental house, his laptop,

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wallet, and suitcase were all found there inside.

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Nothing of note is mentioned to be missing except

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for Reny himself. The sheriff's office launches

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the air unit to help search the water. Since

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clothing of his was found on the beach and there

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was talk of him on LSD, Police think he could

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have gone into the water on drugs and drowned.

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However, when police were searching the house,

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they didn't find any other drugs. The next day,

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Wednesday, March 5th, Reny has been missing

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since Monday night. Reny’s parents arrive at

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the beach house to help search. To their surprise,

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most of the students had left. Of the 22 other

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spring breakers, 16 had packed up and left from

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their spring break trip. His mother said of the

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students left, quote, there were two girls and

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four boys left. Two of them didn't even want

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to talk to us, end quote. It appears that the

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Panama City Beach police never got the chance

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to talk to all of the students who were at the

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house near the time that Reny went missing.

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Of the six left, it appears that different stories

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emerged. Again, his mother says, quote, one was

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saying, I don't know where Reny went. The other

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one was saying, I went to Walmart. The other

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one was saying, I was sleeping. And then the

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other one said, he went for a walk, end quote.

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It also sounds like of the six students that

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were left, one of them is the person who told

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police that Reny had taken LSD and was talking

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about suicide. This also caught the family off

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guard. Reny had been excited about graduating

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and had big plans for his life and was looking

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forward to the future. Reny had never talked

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to anyone in his family about thoughts of suicide.

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For the next few days, police focused their searches

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on the water. Police believe that it is most

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likely that Reny went into the water and drowned.

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They have their marine unit searching the Gulf

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of Mexico for any sign of him, but nothing is

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found. On Friday, March 7th, Reny has been

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missing since Monday night. Investigators continue

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to focus on the water, but police also notify

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other counties to be on the lookout as well as

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the U .S. Coast Guard. Police do start to expand

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their search a little bit here from the water.

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They search abandoned properties near the beach

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house and still no sign of Reny is found. At

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the one -week mark, police say that they are

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still searching for Reny. but do not believe

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that any foul play was involved. They believe

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that he took LSD, decided to go swimming, and

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drowned. Very quickly after this, the case appears

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to go cold. In September of 2014, Reny has

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been missing for over six months, and his family

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hold a demonstration outside of the FBI headquarters

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to try to get the FBI's attention to take over

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the case. The FBI do send out an agent to talk

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with the family, but it doesn't appear that they

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ever officially pick up the case or even get

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involved in it. At the one -year mark of Reny’s

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disappearance, his family heads back to Panama

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City Beach to raise awareness for his case and

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to ask the community for information. If anyone

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remembers anything, please let them know. Maybe

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returning spring breakers would remember something

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from the year before. This trip back to the beach

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will become a yearly trip for the family, something

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that they continue to do to this day. Over the

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years, the case will go cold, but the family

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will fight to keep the case in the media and

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raise awareness. The family hires a private investigator

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to try to get more information. They especially

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want to talk to all of the students who are at

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the beach house with Reny, but no one talks

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much to the family, and a few of them even lawyer

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up. In March of 2024, it's been 10 years since

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Reny vanished and there have been no new leads

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or updates on his case. Police say that they

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still work the case if a tip is called in, but

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no physical sign of Reny has ever been found

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since that first day, when his clothes were found

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at the beach and in the trash can along with

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his cell phone. Police say that they have talked

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to all 22 students. Captain Daffy says, quote,

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End quote. But that is all we know about the

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disappearance of Reny Jose. So if you know anything

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about the disappearance of Reny Jose or his

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whereabouts today, please call the Bay County

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Sheriff's Office at 850 -747 -4700. So that is

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the case of Reny Jose. I have to say, just at

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the top of Reny’s case, it always gives me...

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knowing that they went missing more recently.

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I think I have spoken on this before in prior

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cases that you've brought to cold and missing,

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but the immediacy always feels palpable when

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you're listing out the timeline. And I know there

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wasn't a ton within his timeline, but I do think

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for this case, the timeline is tight. I'm very,

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you know, I'm very grateful that you brought

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his case here, but I'm eager to speak with you

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about it. Yeah. Reny case, when I came across

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it, was one that on the surface, you know, I

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initially wasn't asking very many questions or

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not a lot of things sprung into my head. But

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the more I thought about it with the information

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we do have, what little we do have, I started

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to really. develop more and more questions surrounding

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his disappearance. Yeah, with you saying that,

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I kind of just want to jump right in here. After,

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you know, he was last seen at 7 p .m. and the

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following morning around 11, or within that time

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frame in the morning when they were finding his

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clothes, that's the first thing I wanted to discuss.

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And just ask, what do you make of that? Yeah,

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the finding the clothes on the beach. So that's

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the first set of clothing that's found. It's

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his pajama pants and his socks, according to

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his mother. That's what was found on the beach.

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And from what we know, cleaning crews do come

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through at 6 a .m. and, you know, remove everything

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from the beach before the day really gets started.

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So it is. the understanding that those would

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likely have been thrown out had they been there

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at 6 a .m. So they needed to show up after 6

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a .m. but before 11 a .m. because 11 a .m. is

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when his friends call police. So they would have

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found the clothes just a little bit before that,

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I imagine. I'm so glad I asked the question because

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I knew you would have a different perspective

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from mine. And that was something that I... didn't

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include or even think of was that the cleaning

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crew you know could have picked them up and tossed

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them but what I thought and I think because you

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know this is a missing person's case and we have

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a lens over it to me it read as oh that's someone

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trying to cover something up because normally

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you wouldn't throw your own clothes away that

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is kind of a nonsensical action to me But yeah,

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that's kind of what I thought. While the first

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set of clothes were found hanging on a railing

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near the beach, the second set of clothes were

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found in a trash can at the house, and that was

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found by police. Thank you for reminding me and

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our listeners that there were two different spots

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where clothing was found. You know, the first

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one, With the clothing hanging there, to me that

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read as someone passed by the clothing. And I've

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done this in our neighborhood before. If I see

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a glove or something that it looks like someone

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has lost it or left it, I'll usually hang it

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on a neighboring fence or somewhere where it

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can be safe and noticeable if the person wants

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to come back to find it. But the second one,

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which I just spoke of, Now knowing that there,

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you know, there was a cleaning crew there, that

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does make sense to me. But without that, it seems

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like an action that someone would do to cover

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something up. Sorry, the cleaning crew cleans

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the beach. So they go through and clean the beach.

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So the thought is that his clothes weren't hanging

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on the rail at 6 a .m. Otherwise, they would

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have been thrown out. So those would have had

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to appear after 6 a .m. But before 11 a .m. OK,

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thank you for clarifying. I'm I'm laughing because

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I'm laughing at myself. You know, as Ali is telling

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the timeline of these cases, I'm trying to keep

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up with her and remember everything. So sometimes

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the details get a little lost in the shuffle

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for me. But that's probably true for our listeners.

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So hopefully when I do ask questions, it's helpful

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for you all as well. Another question I kind

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of had about the clothing found on the railing

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specifically, that was the sleeping pants and

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socks, according to his mother. That's what was

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found on the railing. It's never mentioned what

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clothing he was last seen in the night before

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at 7 p .m. So was he in his sleeping pants and

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socks, like getting ready to have an early night

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or just hang out? You know, his day clothes,

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whatever. And then that would indicate that he

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at least went into his suitcase and got his sleeping

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pants if he put that there. So that's a question

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I have with that specifically. The discovery

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or finding of the socks and the pajamas kind

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of made me think that maybe he did end up in

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the water. I know this is a broad question and

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we'll continue to ask more questions, but I'm

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curious to know if you think that he drowned,

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which is kind of the overall theory. And I wanted

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to know how you felt about that. I think it's

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definitely a possibility in the world of possibilities.

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I think it is something that could have happened.

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Something that comes up for me and I know kind

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of comes up for the family as well, while it

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doesn't surprise me necessarily hearing about

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a college student taking LSD on spring break,

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what does kind of surprise me is that, to my

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knowledge, none of the other students in the

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house said that they were also doing drugs that

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night. That's kind of a strange part to me is

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that Reny would be doing it by himself. So

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I wonder if somebody else was doing it and they

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didn't find any drugs in the house when police

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did search. So then, like, if Reny was doing

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it by himself, so he only had just that one dose

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or there's just some questions about it. If other

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people were doing drugs with him, which, again,

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like, isn't crazy for college students on spring

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break, I would hope that they would tell police,

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like, at least what was happening and even, like,

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have the drugs tested. Like, was Reny taking

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LSD or thinking he was taking LSD but took something

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else that... maybe had a adverse effect with

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him. Like there's a lot of possibilities where

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maybe it was just LSD and it hit him weird. I

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think it is something that could have happened,

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but there's still a lot of questions around it

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and lacking evidence to support it. Thank you

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for expanding on everything that you thought.

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It kind of takes us into my remaining questions

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as you were unfolding them. timeline for us.

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Directly after I was writing questions about,

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I wonder, you know, if it was drowning, I quickly

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pivoted to, all I wrote was, did something happen

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with the kids? Because as it started to unfold,

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and just like you, it took me a second to ask

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more questions, you know, within myself. About

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the kids, about the people that were around him

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as this happened. And I think the lack of information

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is odd. And the kids' behaviors when the parents

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show up, odd. Yeah, you know, I think the other

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students, the other college students, like something

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could have just gotten out of hand. you know,

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like partying too much, drinking too much, and

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then something happens. And I try to leave like,

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you know, some grace too, because I think if

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I was 21 and had gone on a spring break trip

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and somebody went missing, I might freak out

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and panic and leave too, just because I was scared

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that something might happen to me. You know,

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I'm not somewhere where I... no, I don't know

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anybody there. So I might just try to like get

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out of there to feel safe. But then on the other

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hand, you know, I can't imagine leaving a friend

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behind that I came there with. Like that feels

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really unimaginable to me and to not be, you

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know, banging a drum, trying to get attention

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and get a search going for them and get them

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home. So it's very confusing, the behavior. But

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I would love to know, like, The statements of

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everybody there and just is there any clue that

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was missed in the timeline? Because it doesn't

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seem like one police agency has ever interviewed

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all of the spring breakers. So like if one person

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did all the interviewing, could they find something

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that multiple police departments missed? Just

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some of the other questions that, you know, if

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I could sit down and get any question I had answered,

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I would be curious. Did his cell phone reveal

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any information? We know this was found either

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in the trash or next to the trash at the rental

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home. You know, was he texting anybody? Was he

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texting dealers to get drugs? Was there any GPS

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on it? Anything to show what he had been up to?

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Or maybe even when he and his phone became separated?

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Is there any indication of when that happened?

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And then... I also got curious just if any of

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his clothing was missing, if they were able to

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determine that at all. But was there any outfit

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missing that he could have possibly been wearing

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when he vanished? We know clothing was found

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in the beach and in the trash can, but was all

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of his clothing accounted for otherwise? Or,

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you know, is there a certain kind of shirt? Were

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his swimsuit missing? Or his, you know, was anything

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else missing? That's something I would want to

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know. I think it's important to mention his family

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here and his parents more specifically. And I'm

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so grateful that you covered just a little bit

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of their navigating what a, I mean, to put it

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lightly, like just horrifying mess this must

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be to have to. Go to somewhere where you don't

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know to try to find your loved one, your child.

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Worst case scenario, worst nightmare. Reny’s

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case is one that, unfortunately, we have seen

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before where someone goes missing during specifically

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a spring break trip. And that's terrifying because

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it's supposed to be a space for young people

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to... have fun and cut loose and, like, be in

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community. So I'm really, I'm glad that we learned

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that his parents did everything they could and

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continue to. And I just wanted to mention the,

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and I know you know this, Allie, but just the

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cost of, like, hiring a PI and having to search

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for your loved one in this way, the toll it takes

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on your life. Forever is, you know, gigantic.

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And when you speak about them in the unfolding

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of the case, you know, usually we only have time

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to cover just a small amount of it. But I think

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it's important to mention that these people,

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not only after losing a part of their hearts

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or if a part of their hearts is lost, they are...

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They are drained in every other way. My heart

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really goes out to them, and I have a lot of

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hope for this case, specifically because there

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are witnesses, they're still alive, and it happened

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so recently. And Reny deserves to come home.

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I, too, have hopes for this case, that we can

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get answers, that we can bring Reny home to

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his family who, yeah, everything you said. was

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perfect. They have worked tirelessly on this

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case and have dedicated their lives. His family

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really cares about him and wants him to come

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home. I think that there is still information

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that can be gleaned in this investigation and

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not even nefarious information necessarily, but

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just like more details where we can really fill

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in, you know, minute to minute what happened.

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I think that is possible in this case, and I

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really hope we get it so that way Reny’s family

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has the answers and we get to bring Reny home.

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But again, if you know anything about the disappearance

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of Reny Jose or his whereabouts today, please

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call the Bay County Sheriff's Office at 850 -747

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